Breeding rabbit colours.

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  1. Oct 7, 2019 #1

    ashlea

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    I am trying to learn about the dominate colours in mini lop rabbits.

    We have a seal point male (left)

    We are thinking of breeding him and wondering what colours he will throw.
    I know he has vienna and harlequin in his background.

    Looking at the orange broken butterfly colours, seal points, blue, vienna, and sooty fawns.

    Anyone have any idea what coloured female would help to get these types of colours? Not looking at agouti or black.

    Or anywhere I can turn to? Some websites are very complex and it's hard to understand from a beginner's viewpoint.

    Thank you
     

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    Seal point is a non-extension color. If you don't want blacks or agoutis you might want to consider breeding another non-extension color to it, as two non-extension colors can only make more non-extension colors (and black and agouti are full extension). Some of those non-extension colors include: orange, fawn, cream, red, frosty point, seal point, bluepoint, iron grey, sallander, seal point, sooty fawn and blue sooty/blue tort/isabella or whatever you want to call that color. Non-extension is recessive to harlequin so he does not carry the harlequin gene. He can still produce harlequin if bred to a harlequin but if bred only to non-extension rabbits won't produce harlequin.

    Breeding a solid to a broken or butterfly will get you about 50% solid and 50% broken/butterfly (on average). If you do find a doe that is butterfly that might be a good way to get a mixture of different colors. Being butterfly doesn't affect the base color.

    Seal point is more recessive to most other non-extension colors so the babies are more likely to be the color of the dam. If you bred him to an orange, you'd get mostly orange, if you bred him to a sooty fawn, you'd get mostly sooty fawn, if you bred him to a frosty point you'd get mostly frosty point, if you bred him to a seal point you'll likely get more seal point (though often seal points also have the genes for white or pointed white to lighten color so mixing to other seal points might get a small chance of those colors). If those rabbit you breeds him to 'carries' one of those other colors, you're likely to get a mixture in the litter. The easiest way to know they carry a color is for one of their parents to be that color. For example, if you bred him to a sooty fawn that had a seal point sire you're probably going to get a mixture of sooty fawn and seal point. If you bred him to an orange butterfly that had a sooty fawn dam you're probably going to get a mixture of orange broken/butterfly, orange, sooty fawn broken/butterfly and sooty fawn.

    The doe that would give you probably the most variety of colors within your litter would be an orange butterfly/broken that carries seal point (so either having a seal point parent or also having one frosty point parent and one sooty fawn parent has the same effect). This would get a chance for a mixture of orange, sooty fawn, frosty point, and seal point/sallander in the litter with about half of them (on average) being either butterfly or broken.
     
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    Thank you for your wealth of knowledge! It’s really hard to find out this information and it’s been interesting to learn.

    I am thinking of having 3 does that would be VM with blue eyes (VM mother and VE father) , blue (mother blue and father was seal point) and a sooty fawn.

    Whilst I love orange butterfly rabbits I have also seen some that have inconsistent marking and can not look the best.

    Hopefully this brings me a range of colours however now understanding this, maybe I should have gotten another coloured buck although we did fall in love with his personality.

    Thank you so much!
     

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