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I don't think communication is happening very well here at all lol. I've said my two cents and I totally agree it is best left.

How is princess doing now anyway? :)
 
There is no such breed as "pitbull" other than the American Pitbull Terrier. It's a collective media term that covers many different breeds and mainly means "any dog that bites someone"
http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html

The reason, though, that they are in the news so much is that they are the dog of choice for idiots. A few years ago, it was GSDs. Before that Rotties. At one point dobermans. That means tons of idiots start breeding whatever dog they can find and selling the pups to other idiots. No one actually cares about the dog, only the image.

When "pits" were used in dog fighting, the #1 priority was NO HUMAN AGGRESSION. Pits are often called the Nanny Dog because they are so good with children. Petey, the dog on Little Rascals, is a pitbull. Now, though, you have idiots who are taking nervous unstable dogs and breeding them to make even MORE crazy dogs.

My neighbor's bully pup was here a couple weeks ago, loving on the kids and playing. Then he decided to chase the chickens. I now have a very irate and limping rooster and the neighbor has a scarred up pup who is TERRIFIED of chickens. The pit-mix we owned was terrified of cats - would hide if he saw one coming.

I hate reading stories about how someone's dog "suddenly" attacked. That actually happening is extremely rare, though there are mental and physical problems that can cause it (brain tumors and thyroid issues for 2) Usually, there are a LOT of signs that the people just did not recognize. Add in that tons of people mistakenly correct/punish a dog for growling, with the result that the dog will no longer GIVE a warning before it defends itself.

To put this on topic, the dogs that would be the biggest danger to your outdoor rabbits ARE the yorkies. The min pins. The small terriers. The breeds entire creation was designed to make a dog small enough to fit in underground burrows to kill small rodents, badgers, other animals and to never give up.
 
dainerra wrote:
There is no such breed as "pitbull" other than the American Pitbull Terrier. It's a collective media term that covers many different breeds and mainly means "any dog that bites someone"
http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html

The reason, though, that they are in the news so much is that they are the dog of choice for idiots. A few years ago, it was GSDs. Before that Rotties. At one point dobermans. That means tons of idiots start breeding whatever dog they can find and selling the pups to other idiots. No one actually cares about the dog, only the image.

When "pits" were used in dog fighting, the #1 priority was NO HUMAN AGGRESSION. Pits are often called the Nanny Dog because they are so good with children. Petey, the dog on Little Rascals, is a pitbull. Now, though, you have idiots who are taking nervous unstable dogs and breeding them to make even MORE crazy dogs.

My neighbor's bully pup was here a couple weeks ago, loving on the kids and playing. Then he decided to chase the chickens. I now have a very irate and limping rooster and the neighbor has a scarred up pup who is TERRIFIED of chickens. The pit-mix we owned was terrified of cats - would hide if he saw one coming.

I hate reading stories about how someone's dog "suddenly" attacked. That actually happening is extremely rare, though there are mental and physical problems that can cause it (brain tumors and thyroid issues for 2) Usually, there are a LOT of signs that the people just did not recognize. Add in that tons of people mistakenly correct/punish a dog for growling, with the result that the dog will no longer GIVE a warning before it defends itself.

To put this on topic, the dogs that would be the biggest danger to your outdoor rabbits ARE the yorkies. The min pins. The small terriers. The breeds entire creation was designed to make a dog small enough to fit in underground burrows to kill small rodents, badgers, other animals and to never give up.
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I have 6 Yorkshire terriers. They are of no danger whatsoever to my rabbits, however I can agree with you that terriers are used to kill small animals in the wild.

You don't want to generalise Pitbulls, because you say its down to the training, however you are generalising Terriers, when surely its down to their training too.
 
jcottonl02 wrote:
I don't think communication is happening very well here at all lol. I've said my two cents and I totally agree it is best left.

How is princess doing now anyway? :)
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Thanks, she is doing great, not a bother on her :)
She had forgotten about it minutes after it happened lol!
 
Might as well leave the breed talk guys :) People very rarely agree to disagree on stuff like that. I'm on a dog forum, and topics like that can go on for pages upon pages lol!
 
I think rabbits are much stronger than we give them credit for. My vet said if they make it past the initial shock/trauma, they are most likely going to make a full recovery.

I'm glad your dad was outside!
 
irishbunny wrote:
jcottonl02 wrote:
I don't think communication is happening very well here at all lol. I've said my two cents and I totally agree it is best left.

How is princess doing now anyway? :)
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Thanks, she is doing great, not a bother on her :)
She had forgotten about it minutes after it happened lol!
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That is so brilliant. Some rabbits could be so traumatised from such a situation, but I am very glad she has moved past it- working with a traumatised and scared animal is just so heartbreaking.

How is the "safety" wire coming along? :p
 
irishbunny wrote:
Might as well leave the breed talk guys :) People very rarely agree to disagree on stuff like that. I'm on a dog forum, and topics like that can go on for pages upon pages lol!
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Lol noone will ever agree, because there is no definitive answer. Dogs are individuals, just like all other animals on earth :)
 
I brought her in cuddled her after it happened, and when I put her down she was licking me and begging for treats so I it seems she wasn't too fazed :)

I haven't put it down yet because the weather has been so bad, very stormy so the bunnies can't even go out in it anyway, once the weather clears up I'll put it up. Otherwise I'll be blown away lol!
 
If I catch him up here again, I'm just going to say could they please keep him under control because I'm worried that he will go onto the farmers land around me and terrorize their animals, and I don't want him to end up dead. See how that goes, and if he comes back again. Tell them we will have to call out the dog warden because we can't have peace with our animals.
 
Lol!!!! Reminds me of the time our tent blew away when we were camping...... :/. It was like a cartoon. We had to buy a new one. HAHAHAHA oh god.

Maybe she didn't realise what was going on? That would be the best thing for this situation I reckon, because then if she ever sees another dog (maybe if you get a pup or something) she'll have no bad memories etc of them. Because dogs can be absolutely fantastic companions for rabbits. My dogs and buns are wonderful friends, and I often find them snuggled together etc. (I have plenty of piccies on my blog :p )

:)
 
irishbunny wrote:
If I catch him up here again, I'm just going to say could they please keep him under control because I'm worried that he will go onto the farmers land around me and terrorize their animals, and I don't want him to end up dead. See how that goes, and if he comes back again. Tell them we will have to call out the dog warden because we can't have peace with our animals.
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I agree with you. It is not the dog's fault- it is so so often the owner (my opinion :p), and a dog shouldn't suffer because the owner won't control it. If you don't control a child/give it boundaries, socialise it etc. they can easily go off the rails too.
Perhaps give someone a ring? They might be able to take the dog off this person, and rehabilitate it and it can go to a loving home, where all animals should be?

Jen
 
jcottonl02 wrote:
Lol!!!! Reminds me of the time our tent blew away when we were camping...... :/. It was like a cartoon. We had to buy a new one. HAHAHAHA oh god.

Maybe she didn't realise what was going on? That would be the best thing for this situation I reckon, because then if she ever sees another dog (maybe if you get a pup or something) she'll have no bad memories etc of them. Because dogs can be absolutely fantastic companions for rabbits. My dogs and buns are wonderful friends, and I often find them snuggled together etc. (I have plenty of piccies on my blog :p )

:)
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I have two jack russel terriers :)
My oldest one thinks they are puppies, my youngest one, still a puppy (7 months) likes to play a little rough with them though so she has to be supervised, but never attacks them :)
 
Rayden, my oldest GSD, is fine with the bunnies. Will let them hop and crawl all over him and will help me herd them back to the hutch when their yard time is over. He will even protect the hutch if he thinks Freya is getting to close to them. Wild bunnies, though, are never safe if they wander into the yard.

Freya, on the other hand, thinks that all bunnies are giant squeaky toys and taste very yummy. She just can not make the distinction that Rayden does.
 
I do feel sorry for your neighbor's dog. None of this is his fault, it's entirely his owners. If they were responsible, then none of this would be happening. Of course, they would probably be quick to blame the driver if he was hit by a car. Or the farmer who shot him.

I'd take whatever measures were necessary to reinforce the bunny's yard. Maybe even not let them out alone if you can't watch them? But, even if I thought the neighbor's would be mad, I'd make a report about the dog harassing livestock. Otherwise, it will just keep happening until someone DOES kill him. Don't look at it as getting the neighbor's upset or in trouble. Look at it as a chance to wake them up and save this pup's life :)
 
What dainerra said is totally true. Those little terriers with the 'head shake' when they play with their toys is enough to see what they can do in the wild!!!:shock:

And they are bred tiddlers so they can shoot down the rabbit hole etc.

But like dainerra said to me, they are trained to do this, so family dogs obv. aren't trained for this, and can be loving companions.

But oh dear me- I have to be quite careful at the park. Our yorkies can look so rat-like, that I worry about letting them off the leads because of some of the larger dogs.
One time, Pippa (the teeniest, scrappiest looking one) *EXCUSE FOR A PICCIE!!!* :p

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I had her off the lead in the park. And suddenly this huge dogs comes running over.

Now...I don't know exactly what it intended- it probs just wanted to play but you can never be too sure!!! If Pippy looks like a rat, and then runs, it might trigger the dog to chase her (as dogs chasing instinct is often triggered by an animal running (including myself :p with my pups)).

She did run

The dog chased.

And there's me screaming like an idiot telling them if they couldn't control their dog then keep it on the **** lead, and trying to simulatneously run like the wind. Eventually their dog gave up but Pippy kept running.
I was terrified and obv cant run as fast as a dog, and she was heading to the road. I was screaming after her but she was so terrified. She bolted into the bushes and when I got there I was calling her frantically, and then she must have heard me properly, realised it was me, because suddenly she leapt into my arm licking me all over, and wouldn't let me put her down.

I've always kept her on the lead now when other dogs are around.

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dainerra wrote:
I do feel sorry for your neighbor's dog. None of this is his fault, it's entirely his owners. If they were responsible, then none of this would be happening. Of course, they would probably be quick to blame the driver if he was hit by a car. Or the farmer who shot him.

I'd take whatever measures were necessary to reinforce the bunny's yard. Maybe even not let them out alone if you can't watch them? But, even if I thought the neighbor's would be mad, I'd make a report about the dog harassing livestock. Otherwise, it will just keep happening until someone DOES kill him. Don't look at it as getting the neighbor's upset or in trouble. Look at it as a chance to wake them up and save this pup's life :)
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I just replied to your thread.

It is NOT a bad choice :). There are plenty of people here with dogs and rabbits that get on wonderfully. Hopefully you'll get lots of posts, pics and tips from those people with dogs and buns.

This is an awful thread to read when wondering if a dog and a rabbit can get along, so forget all you've read here. This is not a loved, family dog we are talking about- it's allowed to roam etc. and clearly is used to attacking non-running prey etc.

Jen
 
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