Yofi, Anna and the Crew, 2010

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Poor Yofi, do you think him being outside in the dirt could have made it worse?
Well, the dirt didn't complicate matters (he had a rather vigorous soapy bathing of the area when he came indoors); however, Yofi is banned from the outdoors right now as the vet was more concerned about the possibility of flystrike...something quite honestly I hadn't even thought about. However, letting him outside with a raw wound is taking chances in itself, flystrike or not, as it could potentially make things worse.

The good news, though (btw, this is a quick Yofi update ;)) is that Yofi is looking much better. No pics right now unfortunately, my camera battery died and I keep forgetting to recharge it. His chest area has cleared up considerably and for the past few days The Boy has perked up quite a bit. Whereas in the past he would be content to sit in his room with Anna - especially with Izzy-pest running about the house -now he comes out exploring again, and will boiiiing up onto the sofa for a free bunny massage. It's really good to see him more lively and alert...when this was at it's peak Yofi would still be eating and would eat a full meal, but his curiosity had waned considerably, and it would probably take him 3-4 times as long to down all of his dinner. Now he's well on his way back to "FEED ME, HUMAN!!!" whenever I walk into the bunny room. I just pray that once the meds are finished, this infection takes a hike for good.

In the meantime, other animal updates:

Anna is still the same; still amicable, keeps to herself for the most part, but comes flying to greet me when I walk in the room. She's overdue right now for a bunny-butt bath (that girl can get so skunky!), but other than the posterior cleaning issue, she's fine.

Kaya wasn't herself yesterday at all. She slept the entire day, and when I fed her in the morning, at first she turned her nose up at the food. hhhhmmm. When Kaya walks away from her dish, I know something's not right...it's akin to Yofi's Fud Intake Valve not functioning. Her eyes were running as well, she was coughing a bit, and sneezing in the afternoon. I suspect she's got some sort of doggy cold, and decided that given her age, I'd better keep an eye on her. This morning though she looked decidedly more alert, even ran around when I took the dogs on their morning field trip. Oh, did I mention here that a week or so ago a dog attacked Kaya? We had just entered the park when someone's dog came flying up from the river (leash attached, but no owner on the other end) and went straight for Kaya. He circled her once and then lunged, grabbing her on the back and biting her. The owner, who had been down at the riverbank sitting and drinking with his buddies, came running up and grabbed his dog's leash...in the meantime I was caught in the middle of it all, leashes wrapped around my legs and two dogs snarling and snapping. I managed to get my legs out of Ground Zero, and then noticed that the other dog no longer had a grip on Kaya; instead, the owner was trying to pull his dog away, and Kaya was standing there, feet planted squarely on the ground, with a big hunk of Other Dog skin in her mouth. She was hanging onto him like a pit bull, and only let go when I let out a loud "HEY!!!" No dogs were injured in the melee, thankfully. And while this was going on Izzy (who was also on a leash next to Kaya) didn't know what to do...he just kept spinning in circles as the dogs fought (no doubt going "OH NO! OH NO! HALPPP!" in his little head).

Speaking of Iz, yesterday he was full of beans. It had poured all day so the dogs didnt' get their usual outing, morning or evening. Instead Izzy played with his stuffed mouse and his ball in the house. But he was definitely going a bit stir-crazy; at one point I was cleaning up and rearranging my bedroom, and found a big shopping bag full of dog toys in it. I had placed it on the floor while I was moving stuff, and Izzy spotted it immediately. "Don't touch", I told him, "Go play with your mouse instead". Well, about an hour later, as I was gathering up clothes to be washed, I noticed a trail of dog toys strewn about the house. Apparently as I was working, Izzy was silently creeping back and forth between the bag and the living room, pilfering one stuffed animal/ball/squeaky toy at a time. And then, about half an hour after that, I sat down on the sofa, exhausted. Suddenly I heard the shopping bag rustling again, so I called out, "Izzy...don't you DARE touch that!" Then there was a moment of silence, followed by more rustling, silence, more rustling...and suddenly Izzy came FLYING out of the bedroom, putting his brakes on right at the doorway to the living room. I looked over at him and just burst out laughing...The Kid had somehow managed to get the bag entangled around his front legs and chest; he was hopelessly snarled up in it, and panicking at being trapped, but didn't want to come over to me because he knew I'd told him not to touch the bag. So I managed to stop laughing long enough to call him over, whereby he slunk into the room, toy-filled bag dragging under his pitiful belly.

Oh yeah, and then last night I decided to take a nice hot bath as my muscles were really aching...wasn't in the tub for more than 5 minutes when Izzy comes in, toting his Wiggly-Giggly ball, wanting me to play. He kept propping it up on the side of tub, I kept pushing it away, telling him to get out...this went on for several minutes until he finally picked up the ball and headed for the door. At last, I thought...peace and quie...

SPLASH!!!

Yep...a Wiggly-Giggly ball came flying through the air and landed right in the middle of the tub, scaring the daylights out of me, and delighting Mr. Izzy-Whizz to no end.

:pssd:


 
Another quick update about Yofi. The vet called me yesterday with results from the culture that they took from his owwwiieee; there were two bacteria present: E. coli and staph. The vet said that Baytril is usually quite good at treating both of these, but because the infection hadn't looked completely cleared up (still looked red in spots this week) he wants to extend the treatment. When he called Yofi was looking great to me; other than a bit of red spots he seemed fine, and was perked up and eating like a horse and running about...in other words, just like a Yofi should be.

However, tonight I went to feed the bunnies and check on Yof and give him his meds...when I lifted him up my heart sank. The infection is back again, and where it had been down near his legs when I took him to the vet last time, it's once again at the top of his chest, angry, red, raw open sores. *sigh* So I have to try and get another appointment for him next week, but I'm not sure what the vet will suggest, as he seemed unsure why the antibiotics hadn't wiped this out right at the beginning. :(
 
Oh no - you might want to go to http://www.medirabbit.com/EN/index_en.htm and search on those infections.

I just tried to do that but I'm in the middle of writing mystery shop reports and I'm wiped out so I can barely think let alone figure out which links to go to.

Sending prayers and hugs to you & Yofi...
 
Thanks so much for the link, Peg! (One of the rabbit diseases they list there is 'green fur syndrome'...I've never heard of that one before!) Definitely the description for staph fits Yofi (which was one of the two bacterium Yof was diagnosed with)...right down to sore hocks, which he had early on in life; a bad case that finally was successfully treated.

Truthfully, what my gut is telling me is that I think he's dealing with Pasteurella...from what I've read on it, Pasteurella is most often linked with the respiratory system (snuffles and it's symptoms) but it can also cause infections in the skin and have other infections present. And from what I've read on Pasteurella is that it's exceedingly difficult to treat...antibiotics may help control the infection, but it just keeps returning. (I dealt with a case of snuffles in three rabbits that I had many many (many!) years ago, and none of the three responded well.) From what I've found with Yofi - it might be my imagination, but it seems that while the antibiotics he's on do help, the Bag Balm seems to bring about a more immediate effect on bringing the infection down. I hadn't been putting Bag Balm on him once the antibiotics took effect and his skin was clearing up, but yesterday when this flare-up happened I immediately bathed the area and applied more Bag Balm...and this morning there's some improvement in the area.

Yofi has a vet appointment scheduled for the 13th, but when I take Izzy in for his neuter on Monday I'm going to get Yof's appointment changed to this week instead. I want to speak to the vet again about Pasteurella and see what he thinks; maybe longterm antibiotics or even impregnated antibiotic beads directly under the area might help. Ugh, this is frustrating. My sneaking suspicion is that in the long term, it may be a case of managing the infected area for the rest of his life, as I am not really hopeful at this point that the infection is going to completely go away.

Thanks so much for the prayers Peg...I know that you know just how frustrating and worrisome this can be. And I do believe in the power of prayer. :)
 
I don't know if you've been reading in the infirmary about Zeus' abscess that turned out to be in his lymph node.....most likely pasturella.

The vet wants us to take out his staple on Monday and remove the gauze she packed it with and treat it with honey (packing it with honey) over the next few days.

Please keep us updated - I am so worried about Yofi. I know you're going to do the best you can for the little brat....but I wish I could be there to see him in person (I so miss Jar Jar).
 
TinysMom wrote:

Thanks Peg! Interesting how many different conditions rabbits can get (well, any animal, really). I'd never heard of this one, but it does sound very much like the descriptions I've read for Pasteurella as well...they say that Pasteurella is very difficult to treat, as it too tends to return once treatment is stopped. They did run a culture on Yofi's infection and found both staph and E. coli present. The vet keeps wondering if there's something that Yofi is snagging his chest on, but I've searched the room and have come up with nothing. :? What's weird too is how the infection travels; it's gone it's origin (an abcess in the middle of his chest) to just below that area, to the top of both of his front legs, and back to the upper part of his chest, and even further up...each time clearing up and then returning. Very frustrating.
 
Wabbitdad12 wrote:
Hugs and prayers for both you and Yofi.

Thank you Dave...they are so appreciated!

Yofi's course of treatment has now changed. He's off the Baytril and is now on Derapen (PenG) injectable. They had to teach me how to give Yofi his injections (first time for everything, I guess). I got to inject The Boy with a dose of saline, since the vet tech demonstrated the procedure by giving him his first treatment. It was a lot easier than I thought it would be - though when I give him his next one tomorrow, it will be one on one...no one to hold the Yofster for me. Mind you, he was good as gold at the vets and never batted an eyelid for either needle, so I'm hoping it will be as easy here.

I must say though, that I don't quite understand the clinic's math. The technician told me that Yofi is to get one injection every other day for the next 8 weeks, and when I questioned her about the syringes (while Dr. Johnso was there he told me that I could always get syringes at any local drugstore when I run out) the vet tech said not to worry about it, because they provided enough syringes in the package to get me through the whole course of treatment. Now, 8 weeks of treatment, every other day, should be 28 syringes, shouldn't it? (Okay, less the one dose he already got...should be 27.) But when I opened the package at home I found only 12 syringes supplied. LOL...and I can just see going to a local clinic in my area and asking for medical syringes...the east end of town is well-known for its drug problem, so I'm sure the pharmacist wont question me at all when I say "It's for my bunny". :dunno
 
I don't know why they would question you, my pharmacist never questioned me when I had to get insulin for my wife's cat!;)

Good luck with Yofi and his shots. Miss Daisy and Jenny send e-lop ear hugs and kisses for his boo boo.
 
Oh Dave, around here it can be hard to get any medication (or supplies). When I had to purchase baby aspirin for Raph, the pharmacist questioned me thoroughly about it, and only gave it to me after 5 minutes or so of grilling (they don't sell baby aspirin on the shelf any more, you have to go to the pharmacist and ask for it). And when I buy pain meds with codeine (Tylenol or the store brand) I am always grilled over that one...and have been refused it as well. They don't outright tell you no - I'm not sure they're allowed to - but they will say they're out of stock (usually that involves the assistant excusing herself, going up to the pharmacist and whispering something, then coming back and sheepishly saying they didn't receive their delivery, or something like that). I sometimes buy it because of chronic neck/jaw pain as a result of radiation, but the pharmacists in this area tend to look at everyone who comes in asking for these type of medications as addicts.

LOL...in fact, back when I had just finished the radiation treatments and was at the height of pain from side effects (believe me, not a fun thing, as the radiation had burned the inside of my throat raw) I had run out of the prescription medication from the hospital. They had me on liquid morphine, and when I called the hospital to ask how to get it refilled, as I was in no shape to go all the way out there to get it, they told me to go to the nearest clinic with the empty bottle and explain it to the doctor there, and he/she would refill it. So I did. After finally seeing a doctor and trying to explain it to him, he sat back, looked at me and said, "I can't refill this...this is a narcotic. You might get addicted to it." I think that was the first time in my life I had the vision of strangling a doctor with his own stethoscope. :p He could see that I could barely speak; I even had the burn marks on my throat from the radiation (not hard to doubt, as they leave two unmistakable parallel red stripes down either side of the neck). I finally managed to get it refilled after talking him into calling the hospital.

So yeah...I could just see the reaction if I walked into a pharmacy around here and asked for a bunch of syringes, and told them "It's for my bunny....yeah...that's it...my bunny". :biggrin2: I'll probably just go back out to the vet's when the syringes get low. (I didn't realize that Karen had a diabetic kitty! Of course if she did mention it in the forum at any point, I would most likely have forgotten...y'know, age and all ;)). I've heard of a few people who have had pets (especially cats) with diabetes who required daily insulin shots. I recall once having to go see a specialist, this was back in 1998 when that HUGE ice storm had hit; the doctor came in over an hour late, apologizing profusely. Turned out she lived in the country and still didn't have power back, and along with horses and dogs she also lived with a diabetic cat. She said, "Just try giving an insulin shot to a cat who knows that it's coming and is very adept at hiding. Every morning I go through this, trying to find a black kitty at 4 in the morning, in pitch black darkness, with nothing but a flashlight to look for him!"

I'll convey the e-lop hugs and kisses from Daisy and Jenny to Master Yofi; I'm sure he will appreciate it! :) Right now he'd soak in any attention from female bunnies, as I forgot to mention that he and Anna had to be separated for the duration of this. The vet is suspicious that either Yofi himself, or Anna (or both) is causing the condition to worsen when it starts to flare up because the area becomes bloody and a huge mess so quickly, and I did catch Anna constantly licking Yofi's neck when it first started out as an abcess. I'm not sure how much of a difference separating them will make though, as last night I found Yofi trying to dig away at it...but I'll try anything at this point. So now Anna is shut in the dog crate while Yofi gets the rest of the room. At least they can still see one another; they just can't cuddle. :(
 
aw, I love the kitty's name...Moosie. :biggrin2:

Seems Anna and Yofi are taking the separation well; they can still see one another and touch noses if they want. However, I think Anna is taking it a bit harder than Yofi. I let her out of the cage yesterday and she immediately went over to him...5 minutes later I had to put her back in, as she was aggressively licking at his chest. :expressionless I also catch Yofi grooming his chest a lot so I'm not sure how much of a difference separating the two will make, but I do know that Anna does not care for her confinement. Yofi, on the other hand, seems pretty laid-back. Well, he still has his *howse* to sit in, so perhaps that's keeping him happy.

Poor Yofi...his first injection the other day went terribly. I must have poked him 10 or 12 times because I couldn't get the plunger to work on the needle. He sat there quietly throughout as I tried different spots in the two shaved areas on his body, and I felt horrible, wondering what on earth I was doing wrong. I removed the needle at one point and tried it alone and the plunger worked well, so tried it again and still had problems. In the end I managed to get about 3/4 of the meds in him, but then when I went to withdraw the needle it stayed in! So I had to grab that and pull it out (I now know to hold the little orange part so the entire needle withdraws :(). Anyway, last night I had to give Yof his next injection, and the same thing started all over again. I was convinced that the clinic had given me the wrong size needles, but then I had a thought...I tried an area on Yofi's body away from the shaved areas, and voila!...worked perfectly the first time. So that's what I'll do from now on.

I feel awful though, because Yofi now has an angry red circle on his back at one of the sites where I stabbed him. :( Doesn't seem to bother him, but it sure does bother me every time I see it. I'm guessing it's irritation from the needle jabbing him.

On an unrelated note, yesterday I decided to let Izzy stay out of his crate while I went out to the store. Was gone for a couple of hours, and when I came back both he and Kaya were good, nothing looked eaten or broken. But then 10 minutes later I went to take the dogs out for a walk, and for some reason Izzy's Halti wouldn't go on him. I kept trying to do up the plastic clasp, but it kept resisting. Then I took a good close look at it. The little rotter had chewed it, and destroyed the clasp...so now his Halti is no longer useable. Given that he hates the thing, I wouldn't be surprised at all to learn that this was no random chewing. :X
AND on top of that, when we came back from our walk I sat down at the computer and...nothing. Wouldn't work. I'd left the screen on but it was in sleep mode and just wouldn't wake up when I moved the mouse. Finally it dawned on me to check wiring, so I followed the mouse's 'tail' and sure enough, someone had chewed the wire almost in half. This, no doubt, most likely occurred after the Halti sabotage...'cuz Izzy also doesn't like it when I'm on the computer for too long. He gets bored and begins flomping his heavy head onto my lap, or leans against my legs and pushes with his body, trying to entice me to get up and play. Geez. And I thought that rabbits were the only ones capable of vindictive rabbitauge. Now I'm dealing with Izzytauge too.

Oh yeah, one funny thing with Izzy...yesterday the dogs and I went to my sister's for a barbecue. My nephew, Patrick, is 17 and is tall (around 6'1" or 6'2"), very long and lean body, with long hair and dresses in dark clothing. He and Izzy have met before, but only briefly since Patrick is always out somewhere. Well, yesterday we were sitting in the living room when Patrick came home; he walked into the house and then leaned on the door jamb, talking to his mother. And suddenly Izzy, who'd been running about with the other dogs, came in. He took one look at Patrick and went ballistic! Fur stood up on his back and he kept backing up, going "roorooroorooROOROOROOROO!!!!!!" at the top of his little doggie lungs. I finally managed to quiet him down, and was trying to convince him that Patrick was actually a person, not a monster from doggie hell come to drag him off, and was almost successful. Izzy settled down and his tail even began to wag just the tiniest bit. But then Patrick shifted his weight, and that did it....Izzy peed his little puppy pants and ran away.
Five minutes later Patrick left and went downstairs, then Izzy slunk back into the room. And he had just gotten his puppy coolness back (playing with a toy under the table) when Patrick's friend decided to come upstairs and meet us. I swear, this kid looked like Patrick's clone...same lanky tall body, same dark black attire, same long hair. Only this Patrick-clone had a skateboard in hand. Poor Izzy...he took one look at this second mutant teenaged behemoth and figured that was it...the Gates of Doggie Hell had opened and it's fury had been released to fetch him. He scrambled out of that room faster than I've ever seen him move (and that's FAST!) and I didn't see him for the next half an hour.

One more thing happened yesterday too...Izzy disappeared at one point, and (as with Yofi whenever he's running about and gets too quiet) I began to suspect Mr. Iz was up to something. So I went searching for him, and found him a few moments later in the backyard, pulling at bits of grass at one spot. So I went down to see what he was doing and discovered that Izzy had found a rabbit's nest. Thankfully he hadn't touched the babies; there were four of them that I could see, maybe more underneath, all curled up together in a rut in the ground. They looked to be no more than a week old. Cutest little things! As I looked at them Izzy sat there watching, his front paws splayed on both sides of the nest, and he seemed fascinated by these little guys. So all dogs were immediately banned from the yard in the hopes that mom bunny will return and move the nest. :)
 
Well I guess your nephew and his friend frightening Izzy was payback for his chewing up things.

I never thought of that! :biggrin:

Latest Yofi update:

His skin on the one shoulder is looking better. Still reddish, but definitely less so than before, and the warmth has gone down as well. He still has a crusty lesion on his chest; I'm hoping it will dry up completely and disappear as the antibiotics take hold. I've read that longterm meds may or may not work, so am crossing fingers with this one. One good thing to note is that he's at least feeling better. More active and appetite like a horse! In the evenings I will open the cage and let him and Anna snuggle for a while, and every time I do the first thing Yofi does is head for Anna's food dish. She usually leaves some, while Yofi (the lapin-vac) Hoovers up all of his early on. So if Anna has anything left, it's gone within moments of the cage door opening.

Anna herself is quite a sight these days...she is going through one of the most enormous moults I've seen. It seems that every other year or so she tends to blow her coat in huge clumps, but this times she looks like a sadistic blind barber got to her...clumps and patches cover her from nosetip to tail feathers. You know the expression, "I just can't do a thing with my hair"? Well, that's Anna. Every time I brush her I swear I could knit an entirely new Anna with what comes out!
 
Hi Di, Glad to hear that Yofi is feeling somewhat better.

It must be so sad for the two babies not being together all the time.

I know what your saying about the shedding. OMG Vega too is shedding in clumps. I wonder what colour her fur will grow in. Wow she got so light this summer. Her poor nose, that darn Winston is grooming her too much so she doesn't have a ton of fur on her Beautiful nose.

Give your babies a big kiss from me.

Susan:)
 
:pray: Praying for Yofi's infections.

Glad to hear that he is feeling more like his Yofi-self.

Our French Lop Rudy (who looks considerably like Miss Anna) sheds so much fur-constantly-that I wonder why he isn't a bald bunny! Dave cleans his cage every other day or so, and each time there's a mammoth ball of Rudyfur in every corner. And that doesn't count the fur that makes it behind his cage, or the fur that we have to lint-roller off of our clothes and furniture every time he's out for play time :p. He usually mixes hay into the Giant Furz Ballz in his cage, so he looks like he has a bunny nest under construction in each corner of his cage. Very odd for a male - NEUTERED - rabbit. :biggrin:

And speaking of bunny nests...Hurray to Izzy for not totally destroying the wild bunny nest he found, which would usually be the puppy thing to do! :big wink:
 
SOOOSKA wrote:
Hi Di,  Glad to hear that Yofi is feeling somewhat better.

It must be so sad for the two babies not being together all the time.

I know what your saying about the shedding.  OMG Vega too is shedding in clumps.  I wonder what colour her fur will grow in. Wow she got so light this summer.  Her poor nose, that darn Winston is grooming her too much so she doesn't have a ton of fur on her Beautiful nose.

Give your babies a big kiss from me.

Susan:)

Oh Susan, I am embarrassed to say that I only just realized you lost Buttercup. When I logged on here I saw his name under your avatar as at the Bridge, and it really threw me. I know that he was at a grand old age for a bunny, but it was still such a shock to learn. My sincerest apologies (and very belated condolences and ((((HUGS)))) to you, for both Buttercup and Jackie. I posted a comment in Buttercup's rainbow bridge tribute. :(

Is it unusual for Vega to shed in clumps? Anna always does this, some years it is mild and some years it's pretty drastic, but this year I think is the worst I've ever seen. She also tends to shed bi-annually, spring and fall. Yofi, on the other hand, is a constant shedder. Not so much in clumps, more an all-over even shed. I'll post some pics of them that I took this evening to give you an idea (especially of what Anna looks like).
 
wabbitmom12 wrote:
:pray: Praying for Yofi's infections.

Glad to hear that he is feeling more like his Yofi-self.

Our French Lop Rudy (who looks considerably like Miss Anna) sheds so much fur-constantly-that I wonder why he isn't a bald bunny! Dave cleans his cage every other day or so, and each time there's a mammoth ball of Rudyfur in every corner. And that doesn't count the fur that makes it behind his cage, or the fur that we have to lint-roller off of our clothes and furniture every time he's out for play time :p. He usually mixes hay into the Giant Furz Ballz in his cage, so he looks like he has a bunny nest under construction in each corner of his cage. Very odd for a male - NEUTERED - rabbit. :biggrin:

And speaking of bunny nests...Hurray to Izzy for not totally destroying the wild bunny nest he found, which would usually be the puppy thing to do! :big wink:

Yofi's definitely perked up, but his infection site still has me concerned. It's not as large as it had been, but it keeps going back and forth from nicely-pinking-up healed skin to aggrevated, sore-looking spots. I've had he and Anna separated, but did let them get together a couple of times in the evenings, as the flare-ups with Yofi have been happening even with Anna locked in the cage.

Rudy sounds like Yofi. He too constantly sheds (year-round), but never in huge clumps. It's an all-over thing and the hair gets absolutely everywhere. Whenever I have to pick Yofi up I wind up with almost as much hair on me as he has on himself. One of these days PETA will be beating on my door, accusing me of wearing a fur coat. ;) LOL at Rudy and the *Furz Ballz* he creates! :biggrin2:
 
Here are a few pictures I took of the two tonight, partly to show Anna's early Halloween coat (I had to put her against the wall so it would show up in the photos):

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In the last one you should be able to see the new coat that's been coming in under the old one. btw, these pictures were taken pre-brushing tonight, but I've been brushing her for a while now. When she first began the moult in earnest about a week ago, I'm pretty certain the first brushing removed the equivalent of at least two extra rabbits.

Here's Yofi too:

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And that's how his chest looked tonight too. Last night it looked pink and very healthy...tonight, back to this again. Sheesh. (btw, the missing hair on his shoulders isn't from moulting; that's where he got shaved for his *injectable* spots.)

Izzy and Kaya:

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And two of Izzy, the day he came home from his neuter. These are the official Mr. Conehead pics:

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I removed the cone after a couple of hours because it was frustrating him so much. He would walk very rapidly because it annoyed him, and every few seconds he'd smack into a wall or door jamb with it. Finally I found him the way he was posed in the last picture, resigned to a life of leaning on the sofa. :D
 
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