Symptoms of Kidney Problems

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  1. Oct 19, 2004 #81

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    Whats kidney disease like and how can you prevent it?
     
  2. Oct 19, 2004 #82

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    *nepo* wrote:
    Hi *nepo*,


    It seems to effect elderly rabbits and rabbits that have had a go with E. cuniculi, which can cause kidney disease.

    You just have to keep an eye on your elderly rabbit.

    Although mixed breed rabbits can live up to 10 years old and older,often times purebred rabbits sadly only make it to about 6 years old.(My rabbit, Fauna, is 5 years old and I have to watch her a bit more because of her older age.) This is not my statistic, it is those of people that are veterinarians who specialize in rabbits, in Kathy Smith who wrote a book about Rabbit Health and has been studying them for many years, and even our own Pamnock.

    If they are losing weight, seem to sit in their litter area more than usual, look like they're straining when they go to the bathroom, it's not a bad idea to get a urine test done on them to check their Specific Gravity value which should be in the range of 1.008-1.012. Kidney problems will show up first in urine tests before it gets into the blood. Often times, by the time a kidney disease shows up in the blood,it's very hard to correct. Xrays can show if the rabbit has kidney stones or bladder sludge.

    A woman I know said her rabbit showed no noticeable signs of illness until 4 days before his death. The cause was that the rabbit had a loss of 90% of its kidney function. Same woman kept her rabbit alive on Sub-Q who had a kidney failure.

    Sometimes you're lucky, sometimes you're not.

    -Carolyn
     
  3. Oct 19, 2004 #83

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    :(Rex is a purebred, but his mate Peanut is mixed. He's 5 and she's 4. Does this mean I can expect her to outlive him?? I don't know if she could handle that...:(:(
     
  4. Oct 19, 2004 #84

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    "Don't trouble Trouble until Trouble troubles you."


    Dear m.e.,

    You just don't know what can happen.

    In many cases they pass over on or near 6 years old; that said,my vet did see a purebred live to be 8. Let's hope we're all one of the lucky ones.

    As our knowledge grows of rabbits and what works and what doesn't, perhaps their lifespan will as well.

    -Carolyn
     
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    Thanks, Carolyn. I think my emotions are right near the surface right now. Aside from being very busy with school and work, my kittens, the little joys of my life, will be leaving in two weeks :?. Thinking about how little time we actually get to spend with our furry companions, and realizing how my bunnies are getting older, it just makes me sad to think that I really have such a short time with them :(:(A year, three years, it's never long enough *sigh*

    I wish I was home right now to snuggle them....
     
  6. Oct 19, 2004 #86

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    Dear m.e.,

    Tell me about emotional, Dear Heart. I completely understand. I react with panic too.

    Every day we learn more. We are learning the red flags, and in trusting your intuition, and not questioning yourself is key. We also are learning more about how to treat things if our little one's can handle it and it's not yet their Time.

    Everyone here on this board and your own rabbit savvy vet will do everything we can. That's why it's so important people find a good vet before an emergency happens.

    I can't bear to think of my life without Tucker and Fauna. I've gotten to the point where I say to myself, "Don't even think about it because you can't imagine it and you can't prepare for it."

    My father died a slow, painful death of cancer. Even though I knew it was coming, I was in absolute shock and despair when it happened. I learned then that there are just somethings you can't prepare yourself for and you'll deal with them when the time comes.

    For now, All is Well with your babies at home and they'll be causing trouble and making a mess 10 minutes after you're home.

    Enjoy every minute of it. :)

    Love,
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    P.S.

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    I mentioned above that old age and E. cuniculi can promote kidney disease.

    In case you're not aware, E. cuniculi is a parasite. Bunnies can contract it at a young age, or are in contact with an infected companion, or playing in contaminated dirt. I have treated my rabbits with Ivermectin in order to ward them against parasite, but nothing is fool proof.

    As said by Kathy Smith, "Many house rabbits test positive for E.cunculi. Some live long, healthy lives ...until they experience something stressful like an illness or loss of a mate. The infection can be kept in check by the rabbit's immune system."

    -Carolyn

     
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    don't get too worked up too soon, jesse who will be 11 in Jan is a pure mini lop. Marcus and Emma who are rex buns are both 8.5 yrs old. However she has had intestinal polyps but thats another matter. And rocky who is dutch is 7.5 yrs old. My other old lady is older than dirt, age unknown, but breed unknown as well. the majority of my buns are 4 and 5 yrs old so they better be sticking around a few more years. i have 15, 4year old buns... go figure

    Lets hear it for old age





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    That's very encouraging, thanks Gabby!

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    -Carolyn
     
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    That's GREAT news!!!
     
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    Fluff, my first bun was a pure bred New Zealand White and he lived to be 13 or 14 (depending on how long his first owner had him) He was unneutered and an outdoor bun. The last two years of his life he lived in style on our porch because he had arthritis and couldnt reach around to wash his bum, so he got daily butt baths.

    He was a big guy and after I gentled him loved his attention. And he sold me on bunnies.
     
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    Carolyn wrote:
    hey we need positive thoughts here so that's why i added... so see fauna can live to be 15 yet LOL And lets not forget Tucker we want him to live forever.
     
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    Smokey is 12 or 13, and she's a pure Netherland. Bunbun (Palomino) was 8.5 and would have lived longer if the vet hadn't killed him....:X

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    Carolyn wrote:

    YEEEEEAAAY!!!

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    It gives me such hope when I hear about the ages your purebreds have lived to.

    The only thing that would keep me from getting more rabbits is their lifespan.

    Thank you for your warm and encouraging note.

    :)

    -Carolyn
     
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    Bump because although the problem (thank God) wasn't her kidneys, it still was a lesson learned.

    -Carolyn
     
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    How did he kill him , if you don't mind me asking...
     
  19. Jul 18, 2005 #99

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    Carolyn-

    I haven't been on the last week because i've been in Minnesota...i looked over this thread from the start-didn't look at the dates....i thought something was wrong w/ Fauna! I about had a heart attack...FINALLY i looked at the date:embarrassed:

    Glad she's alright!!!

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    Carolyn wrote:
    The longest lived rabbit I had was a Netherland DwarfHimi buck, he was over 12 (and would lived longer if rabbit sitter had been more careful), a friend had a Flemish live to 17. It's more their relative health, diet, and environment than breed or pedigree that deirmines longevity.
     

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