whaleyk98
Well-Known Member
Oopsy, my bad. Didnt look at the name. I appologize Jen. since you reponded I just thought it was you. :blushan:
jcottonl02 wrote:whaleyk98 wrote:I can't find this anywhere in the post? Sorry lol :?Lazy breeders paradise????
Thats a little insulting dont you think?
I feel that wire cages make for a cleaner environment for the buns....NOT because Im a lazy breeder. Sheesh.
Anyway, you shouldn't take offence to it- I'm sure there was nothing personal. If you know you aren't lazy then there's no need to feel personally attacked.
It may generally be easier to clean, wire pens, but my buns obviously don't live on wire, but I am certain their environment is just as clean as any wire pen, because I spend a lot of my time cleaning and disinfecting them. And my buns are litter trained, so there are no poops/urine anywhere apart from the litter trays, which are cleaned daily
I still can't get my head about leaving my buns on wire. It must be absolutely fine, because so many people do it and have no problems etc., but it just reminds me of chickens in chicken farms in metal wire cages lol :cry2.
I understand that breeders don't necessarily have them as 'pets', and the cages are supposed to be temporary, but I still can't get my head around breeders standards meaning buns can spend vast periods of time in a 1ft x 2ft all wire cage, and no socialising time (really...if the breeder has to share out time with 10 buns a day).
I am by no means attacking ANYBODY at all- this are just my personal wonderings, and obviously a reason why I am not on the Rabbitry much at all. Please nobody feel offended, or personally attacked, because it gets a bit tiring, when someone is just expressing an opinion.
I seem to be the only one with this opinion though, so that says something about how right I am lol!:thumbup
I don't know anyone personally who has their buns in a 1 ft X 2 ft cage. My smallest cages (minimum recommended size by ARBA) are 18" X 24". My rabbits can binky in them and will do circles sometimes.
One thing that surprised me as a new breeder was that not all rabbits seem to like "out" time. I have several that when taken out of their cage - want to sit in one place and just wait to get put back. (Once put in their cage they'll play again with their toys and they'll run and binky). Others of course- LOVE their out time and run and play.
Many many pet homes use wire cages also.
My adult flemish giants are in dog crates - with solid floors and litter pans. They don't get out every day - BUT they do get out fairly regularly (they always seem to know when it is their turn and are waiting for me that morning to let them out).
When they do get out - they get several hours of playtime - sometimes 6-8 or even 10 or 12 hours (if I forget to put them back and rotate them).
I hope that helps. One thing to remember is that while not all pet owners are alike - neither are all breeders. I find that an encouraging fact.
But when you have a shed that is 21 feet.. It is hard to put 12 cages in the shed.
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