TinysMom
Well-Known Member
(Lisa is a close personal breeder friend of mine and we have both beenbreeding for 2 years almost now. She takes awesome care of her rabbitsand people are now driving from other states to get rabbits from her.
She and I think a lot alike about our rabbits and Lisa has probablyspent more in vet bills and medicines this year then she spent in food~ and she just paid over $100 for high quality Oxbow hay for herrabbits.
She is one of my most respected breeder friends -so please...listen to what she has to say).
I understand that not all breeders will stay up allnight for does to kindle - not all of them can. But whenever Lisa has asick animal that is going to pass over the bridge- OR an animal that isabout to kindle....she stays with them so they are not alone.
Lisa says:
the bunnies that were due have been a disaster
the holland had one live two dead and one stuck kit
the AFL has had two dead thus far and one stuck kit too
I think she has one more to go yet
Lionhead Lady says:
oh no
do you help them deliver stuck kits or do you take them to the vet?
Lisa says:
the lions are doing ok except that ---- has two peanuts out of three
I delivered them
oxytocin and lubricant!
patience and determination
Lionhead Lady says:
ok
poor girls
Lisa says:
poor ----- just cried and whimpered
----- took it a bit better but is having some residual problems
they will of course spend the next couple weeks on PenB
which they do not like either
Lionhead Lady says:
right
poor baby
I have a question for you...
As you know - I'm the mod on a forum....we're all the time trying to convince folks to
not breed unless they learn about breeding, etc
do you mind if I copy and paste some of what you've shared - without using your name
and use it as a post on the board to share with folks WHY we warn about the dangers of breeding?
and how things can go wrong?
Lisa says:
sure
it has been horrible for these girls and with someone less experienced,they would have suffered and died by morning when the vet comes in
these things never happen during office hours
Lionhead Lady says:
ok thanks
I'm going to copy that too
Lisa says:
so people must be prepared to deal with things themselves
hopefully they will have a full recovery, but they will never be bred again
theres people who think it is quick and easy money best think again. The one doe cost us $125, the other $100.
we have one live kit from one and nothing live from the other and they can never be bred again
we may still lose the girls to infection, but have hopes of pulling them through.
This now makes four hollands/afl that we have had to pull from our breeding program for the same reason.
We cannot sell them either and take the chance that someone would try to breed them
these are all nice does from good lines, (Removing the names of the lines)
Very nice girls, but not worth risking their health by breeding again
This is one reason we sell so few for breeding
Lionhead Lady says:
I'm copying all of this except for the names of the lines..
We get teenage girls all the time joining and then talking about how they want to breed their cute bunnies, etc
its become a chronic issue now
Lisa says:
most people are not willing to put in the sleepless nights, the endless worry and the high vet bills.
to think how many bunnies will be in a dark barn all alone tonightsuffering the same fate as these girls with no one to help them.
Most will be dead by the time they are found
breeding is not for those who will only do it half hearted
it is either a full time commitment, or not at all
I really wish people were more responsible in their breeding efforts
they think they can just throw two bunnies together and rake in the money 12 weeks later!
Breeding is not for everyone
you should try to make that clear
Lionhead Lady:
Trust me ... we try to make it clear
Lisa says:
I can only do it because I am here all day everyday.
Lionhead Lady says:
and can stay up all night with the does?
when they're due to kindle?
Lisa says:
sometimes several nights in a row
lots of coffee!!
I should take stock in Maxwell House and Folgers
and for those who may wonder....
Lisa says:
I sold two pets today
I put them through the usual barrage of questions!
they passed, so they were allowed to purchase one of our little darlings!!
I only have older bunnies
all are at least 12 weeks old
no young bunnies
some are 5 and 6 months old
all leave with the understanding they come back here if they do not want them or they do not work out