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The article about Peter Neesley and his doggies Mama and Boris made me cry. All I can hope is that the video with the puppy being thrown is a fake. Hopefully it will come out soon whether or not it was! I also agree that no one should think all Marines are like that, there are a few bad people everywhere.
 
Considering my 19 year old brother is a US Marine serving in Iraq..and in service to his country he was unable to return home a second time because our Grandmother just died, I will be hopping on a plane to tend to his wife in a few hours, who lost their baby,
I think I am gonna keep my comments on the Military and Marine slamming to myself..


 
My comment didnt mean that I "lump" them ALL together.. I just said I dont have "instant" respect for them, you have to earn it.. which wabbitdad you do have my respect, you sound like you have a great head on your shoulders. Most soldiers in those days were great.. unfortunatly I'm growing up in a time where chivolry(sp?) is dead and MOST men are currupted by voilence/internet(pornography)/exotic dancers/drugs and all(just look at the divorce rates these days)... there arent many "gentlemen" out there these days. Anyhoo, I feel like all that has changed men.. (not saying all woman are saints) and I surely cant see someone from WWI acting like that kid. I just feel that the average 25 yr old male today is NOTHING like the average 25yr old male 30 years ago. So Im just saying, you have to earn my respect..



sorry for getting a tad off topic.
 
Tracey wrote:
My comment didnt mean that I "lump" them ALL together.. I just said I dont have "instant" respect for them, you have to earn it.. which wabbitdad you do have my respect, you sound like you have a great head on your shoulders. Most soldiers in those days were great.. unfortunatly I'm growing up in a time where chivolry(sp?) is dead and MOST men are currupted by voilence/internet(pornography)/exotic dancers/drugs and all(just look at the divorce rates these days)... there arent many "gentlemen" out there these days. Anyhoo, I feel like all that has changed men.. (not saying all woman are saints) and I surely cant see someone from WWI acting like that kid. I just feel that the average 25 yr old male today is NOTHING like the average 25yr old male 30 years ago. So Im just saying, you have to earn my respect..



sorry for getting a tad off topic.

"those days"? Did I sound that old?:biggrin2:I just retired 2 years ago!LOL




 
lol at wabbitdad :)

Tracy - I just wanted to say I agree with your last comment there 100%, well put. And you are right that the average 25 year old guy today, is not like the average 25 year old once was. That is why I am with and have been for quite some time, a man who is quite a bit older than me. I just skiped the 25 year old behavior all together! I met my partner when I was 19, and didn't think twice, we fit together well.
Although he still thinks he is in the military and watching him make a bed is really something ;)
 
I have the utmost respect and appreciation for our soldiers - any branch - any rank.

If this is infact a true situation, this person doesn't deserve the title let alone the feelings from the United States or any decent civilized country.

He's just one out of all the thousands who are good.

It's not the soldier - it's the waste of DNA that he is ....
 
I could not bring myself to viewing the video, and I can't imagine the horror of the poor puppy being thrown down the hill. Lets not let an isolated incident tarnish the US marines.

As Wabbitdad12 said, I believe the US military is the greatest in the world and they are fighting for your rights and freedom. If this individual act is true, let the Military Justice pursue the correct course of action. If this was a sign of help from the soldier, I hope the army can provide the resources to treat andheal him.

As for the tragedy of the puppy, it should of never happened.
Unfortunately, there are many good stories that never make the news, so lets cherish the ones that do.
 
Gabby wrote:
negitive press gets the most attention, And I agree just because one bad apple, don't throw out the whole lot.

an ernestly compelling story is one about 2 dogs a Soldier cared for and they ended up going home to his family, while he himself will never see home again. And this is not the only case there were a couple of other stories but I can not currently find the links to them.

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/AmazingAnimals/story?id=4264876&page=1

From Baghdad, With Love:

http://www.globepequot.com/globepequot/index.cfm?fuseaction=customer.product&product_code=1-59228-980-0&category_code=DOGS



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That is a great story, Leaf!!

When my uncle served in Vietnam, he had a pot-bellied pig for a pet. A snake got ahold of the pig one night and the entire group with my Uncle took it down - got their piggy back and he then slept with someone from then on LOL!

One of them also had a monkey.

Sometimes those are the things that allow them to keep their sanity and perspective. I hate that it's not legal for them but sometimes the rules get bent - Thank God.


 
Bo B Bunny wrote:
That is a great story, Leaf!!

When my uncle served in Vietnam, he had a pot-bellied pig for a pet. A snake got ahold of the pig one night and the entire group with my Uncle took it down - got their piggy back and he then slept with someone from then on LOL!

One of them also had a monkey.

Sometimes those are the things that allow them to keep their sanity and perspective. I hate that it's not legal for them but sometimes the rules get bent - Thank God.

That is too sweet!



Here's another story that deserves notice:

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/iowa-soldier-saves-dog-in-iraq/1065860564



British soldiers need recognition as well:

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The alsatian-cross dogs, pictured with Sergeant Paul Farthing from 42 Commando, based near Plymouth, were flown 3,500 miles to Britain after the Marines who rescued them could not bear to leave them behind....

http://www.petstreet.co.uk/blog_entry.aspx?ID=3715

 
Wabbitdad12 wrote:
Tracey wrote:
My comment didnt mean that I "lump" them ALL together.. I just said I dont have "instant" respect for them, you have to earn it.. which wabbitdad you do have my respect, you sound like you have a great head on your shoulders. Most soldiers in those days were great.. unfortunatly I'm growing up in a time where chivolry(sp?) is dead and MOST men are currupted by voilence/internet(pornography)/exotic dancers/drugs and all(just look at the divorce rates these days)... there arent many "gentlemen" out there these days. Anyhoo, I feel like all that has changed men.. (not saying all woman are saints) and I surely cant see someone from WWI acting like that kid. I just feel that the average 25 yr old male today is NOTHING like the average 25yr old male 30 years ago. So Im just saying, you have to earn my respect..



sorry for getting a tad off topic.

"those days"? Did I sound that old?:biggrin2:I just retired 2 years ago!LOL
Ahhh you know what I mean..lol I wasnt calling you an old geezer. :)
 
trailsend wrote:
lol at wabbitdad :)

Tracy - I just wanted to say I agree with your last comment there 100%, well put. And you are right that the average 25 year old guy today, is not like the average 25 year old once was. That is why I am with and have been for quite some time, a man who is quite a bit older than me. I just skiped the 25 year old behavior all together! I met my partner when I was 19, and didn't think twice, we fit together well.
Although he still thinks he is in the military and watching him make a bed is really something ;)

I met my hubby when I was young young myself :) I was 14, He came up to me at a theme park and asked me "do you know your fine" I said "yeah" and walked away( in know i used to b mean) and that was that. Well I saw him again about a year later at a store, didnt speak to him, then ANOTHER year later, I was at a party (me 16, him 19) and look who comes walking out the door, the theme park guy.. so we talked all night, I decided to give him a chance... two months later we are living 150 miles away from both of our familys, on our own(by choice)... its since been over 8 years since our first date, and are now married(been married for 1 and a half years). I can positively say we'll be together forever.. I mean we stuck by each other all those years so theres definatly going to be no surprises in our marriage, we were together for 7 years before we tied the knot lol I think we know everything about each other.

So yea, I am now 24 and he's 27, and I can say I met my husband at a theme park lol
 
I didn't actually watch the video but I know the one you are talking about -

In maths the other day we were on the computers and this boy was on it and it was horrible I didn't watch it and made him turn the volume down so I couldn't hear it.

It makes me so angry and sad but there are so many cases of animal crulety you woudn't even believe - in some places they wack baby seals over the head as a sport.

Sick i tell you sick - I know everyone on here loves animals and it is such a horrible thing to think about.

I want to go and wack those people over the head.







Really hard

:duel
 
I did not watch the video because I would have found it too utterly disturbing; the title of the thread itself had me extremely upset...so I don't know much about the details. I am curious, was this act committed in the U.S., or did it take place overseas? If on American soil, can he not be located and charged?

In my opinion, any act of abuse, cruelty, torture, and/or killing of an animal tells me that something inside of the person is 'broken'. At the very least, someone capable of doing such a thing should be charged with extreme cruelty causing death - if it is possible; and should be assessed for emotional problems. How I wish these things did not happen...but they do. Rather than condemn the person to a similar fate, or to horrific things happening to them (a reaction that I do totally understand), I would much rather see persons who commit such acts be treated, rather than written off completely. I just hope the person in the video does recieve some help.

ooops...wanted to add on to my post that while these things do happen, there are - as has already been posted - many stories on the flip side of this one. I watched a show on tv several months ago about a man in the military who was fighting in Iraq (not sure it is the same story as one already mentioned in this thread); this stray dog adopted him and began hanging around the camp. The dog wound up getting seriously hurt at one point, so the soldier arranged to have him flown to the U.S. for treatment. His wife and children took care of the dog when it arrived stateside, and despite having to lose one of his legs, the dog recovered completely and was adopted by the soldier and his family. The veterinarian who treated the dog was so moved by all of this that he refused to charge the family anything; he was brought to tears and said it was least he could do for someone who was overseas fighting. It was a beautiful story...:)
 
Wabbitdad12 wrote:
Phinnsmommy wrote:
Ugh!

That is ssoo mean :(.

People always brag about how great US soldiers are, well, they should see this video.

You can hear a thud when it hits the ground. Omg :(.

Just hold on a minute everyone!

Do not put all soldiers in the same group because of oneincredibly stupid individual, as you would not lump all people of one race together because of the brainless actions of one person.

The US military IS THE GREATEST in the world and remember they are protecting your freedom.

By no means am I condoning the insensitive and cruel actions of this twit. The Army will be investigating this incident and determine if it was an altered video or if it actually happened.

If it actually happened, the soldier and all those involved will be punished. The Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) has very strict penalties and the guilty cannot plea bargin to a lesser charge.

Also, our enemy would have perfectcause to alter a video and post it on youtube to turnUS publicopinion on itsown military and to increase the negative image the press has given the US role in Iraq. If it was another US soldier who altered the video because, for whatever reason thought it was funny, then heis just plain dumber then a box of rocks.

The US military is a crosssegment ofour society and you will get a few rotten individuals in it.

I spent 25 years in military service to this country and it ticks me off when people lump all military personnel together when one idiot does something sosenseless it boggles the mind.This soldier is not representative of the others that are serving inIraq performing their duties with honor.

There is no excusefor this kind of behavior. If he andthe other cretins involved actually did this, they will be punished. If found guilty, they could get imprisonment, reduction in rank, fortifiture of all pay and a dishonoralbe discharge (there's probably a few thingsin addition)or all the above.
Thank you, Wabbitdad, for saying that!!

I come from a military family and my husband is serving in the Air Force. I can't tell you how upset I feel seeing this video being posted everywhere on the Internet and howshocked I am seeing people jumping at the chance to slam our military. It really is hurtful.

 
Bassetluv wrote:
I did not watch the video because I would have found it too utterly disturbing; the title of the thread itself had me extremely upset...so I don't know much about the details. I am curious, was this act committed in the U.S., or did it take place overseas? If on American soil, can he not be located and charged?

In my opinion, any act of abuse, cruelty, torture, and/or killing of an animal tells me that something inside of the person is 'broken'. At the very least, someone capable of doing such a thing should be charged with extreme cruelty causing death - if it is possible; and should be assessed for emotional problems. How I wish these things did not happen...but they do. Rather than condemn the person to a similar fate, or to horrific things happening to them (a reaction that I do totally understand), I would much rather see persons who commit such acts be treated, rather than written off completely. I just hope the person in the video does recieve some help.

ooops...wanted to add on to my post that while these things do happen, there are - as has already been posted - many stories on the flip side of this one. I watched a show on tv several months ago about a man in the military who was fighting in Iraq (not sure it is the same story as one already mentioned in this thread); this stray dog adopted him and began hanging around the camp. The dog wound up getting seriously hurt at one point, so the soldier arranged to have him flown to the U.S. for treatment. His wife and children took care of the dog when it arrived stateside, and despite having to lose one of his legs, the dog recovered completely and was adopted by the soldier and his family. The veterinarian who treated the dog was so moved by all of this that he refused to charge the family anything; he was brought to tears and said it was least he could do for someone who was overseas fighting. It was a beautiful story...:)
yes that is the dog named Nubs for the ears that he is missing :)
 
jam224 wrote:
Wabbitdad12 wrote:
Phinnsmommy wrote:
Ugh!

That is ssoo mean :(.

People always brag about how great US soldiers are, well, they should see this video.

You can hear a thud when it hits the ground. Omg :(.

Just hold on a minute everyone!

Do not put all soldiers in the same group because of oneincredibly stupid individual, as you would not lump all people of one race together because of the brainless actions of one person.

The US military IS THE GREATEST in the world and remember they are protecting your freedom.

By no means am I condoning the insensitive and cruel actions of this twit. The Army will be investigating this incident and determine if it was an altered video or if it actually happened.

If it actually happened, the soldier and all those involved will be punished. The Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) has very strict penalties and the guilty cannot plea bargin to a lesser charge.

Also, our enemy would have perfectcause to alter a video and post it on youtube to turnUS publicopinion on itsown military and to increase the negative image the press has given the US role in Iraq. If it was another US soldier who altered the video because, for whatever reason thought it was funny, then heis just plain dumber then a box of rocks.

The US military is a crosssegment ofour society and you will get a few rotten individuals in it.

I spent 25 years in military service to this country and it ticks me off when people lump all military personnel together when one idiot does something sosenseless it boggles the mind.This soldier is not representative of the others that are serving inIraq performing their duties with honor.

There is no excusefor this kind of behavior. If he andthe other cretins involved actually did this, they will be punished. If found guilty, they could get imprisonment, reduction in rank, fortifiture of all pay and a dishonoralbe discharge (there's probably a few thingsin addition)or all the above.
Thank you, Wabbitdad, for saying that!!

I come from a military family and my husband is serving in the Air Force. I can't tell you how upset I feel seeing this video being posted everywhere on the Internet and howshocked I am seeing people jumping at the chance to slam our military. It really is hurtful.
Your welcome.

Your husband is obviously a man of quality having selected to serve in the Air Force. I appreciate his willingness to serve.

I am retired from the Air Force 2 years ago.
 
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