Horrific rabbit death

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  1. Oct 15, 2019 #1

    Joanne Armstrong

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    So last Wednesday I came home from shopping and found a patterdale terrier had jumped my garden wall and was terrorising the rabbits while they were in there hutches. I tried to shooo it away and it's snapped and snarled at me so I got my eldest son who is the proud daddy of Reggie and Ronnie(2 of our buns) and my husband to get it out which they did after a few issues. About 10 minutes After it had been chased out I heard a noise and to my horror Ronnie was on the lawn dead, my eldest son broke down . He was and still is devastated. We buried him and during the next hour the dog came back 3 more times to try get in the garden. I rang the RSPCA and reported the attack and they told me to call police so I did, they took a full report and told me to call local dog warden who said if they could trace the dogs owner the most severe action would be taken. Then I was told unless they had owner details nothing could be done, after posting a pic of the dog on FB the owner came forward. Apologized and wanted the matter dropped, then a neighbour came forward with a video of the dog. Turns out while I was shopping it spent from 10am to 12.27 terrorising all 6 rabbits till it settled on getting Ronnie out of his secure hutch, the footage shows the dog spend over an hour chewing, clawing at the hutch till finally gets the door open then goes in for Ronnie, he went to the top floor, and Stevie can be heard stamping her feet(she's Ronnies mum) so the dog goes to her hutch and Ronnie makes a dash for it just to be chased and thrown in the air, til finally the dog gets him by the throat and drags him round before finally killing him, then the dog just barks and goes to another hutch ..... That's when I come home.
    Now the advise I need is I rang the relevant authorities but I want to make sure this never happens again, and now I worry as the dog owner has a 4,5 year old and a new born. All advise welcome. Attached is a picture of Ronnie who leaves behind his pregnant partner Reggie
     

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    That is such a horrible story. So sorry you had to go through that. It really gets me when people don't keep their dogs under control.

    We had a neighbor with several small dogs that kept getting out, and squeezing through our gate to the back yard. One actually bit me in my own backyard!

    I can imagine how maddening the situation must be. Unfortunately, they may not see the killing of a rabbit as any indicator of potential aggression toward humans. Might want to get a copy of that video in case anything else occurs. Could be good to have a log.
     
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    :eek:That is AWFUL!!!:(:(:( I had a similar experience when our neighbors huge bulldog ripped of half of our fence boards and then spent the afternoon chasing our chickens and ducks, (thankfully I didn't have rabbits back then) fortunately he was to slow to catch any,(but he did bite the tail of one of the chickens) and when we got home my border collie chased him off. Poor Ronnie and Reggie. I hope you get everything figured out.:)
     
  4. Oct 16, 2019 #4

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    I'm sorry for your loss.

    I had a french bulldog that brutally killed then ate 3/4 of our house chickens (bet you've never heard that term) while I was at school a little over a year ago that I was the one to find. Coming home to that was one of the worst days of my life and seeing everything I saw still affects me daily. It completely changed the way I saw that dog. I've never been so emotionless about an animal's death than I was about his no matter how hard I tried to forgive him.

    I really hope everything turns out okay and you get some sort of justice. In my opinion, having kids isn't an excuse for not being unable to contain a dog.

    What do you want to be done about the whole situation? Do you have any ideas about what could be done to prevent this from happening again?
     
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    Joanne Armstrong

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    I have obtained a copy of the cctv and it’s heartbreaking, at one point Ronnie tries to get back in his hutch but pushes the door closed. He must of been terrified. The police said a few things could happen to the owners and their dog,
    1. She gets tied up and muzzled.
    2. She’s taken and try to rehome.
    3. She’s destroyed.
    4. No action.
    5. Prosecution

    the owner contacted my daughter yesterday asking if replacing Ronnie will help! We had him since he was born, it’s not that simple.
    My son (Ronnie daddy) said he don’t want the dog destroyed. He said he don’t want the owners to hurt like he does. But also he’s torn as they have young children as I said and who knows if the dog could turn on them.
    Personally I would prefer her rehomed and owner to be made aware this cannot be allowed to happen ever again if they were to get another dog
     
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    I am so sorry you had to go through this, and equally sorry that your defenseless boy Ronnie endured the terrorizing action of the dog. And was killed.

    Coming back 3 more times to terrorize, jump the fence, and potentially kill more of your rabbits .... ?? | I would build a larger fence and be certain the terrier doesn't dig underneath.

    Rabbits get little protection or sympathy when killed (by humans who view them as lesser beings or pets). Someone with a baby and young son is not going to continually monitor where their terrier will be! Helpful to have the CCTV for documenting what happened.

    I am shaken and terribly sad for Ronnie who paid with his life, and the dog kept continuing to terrorize. Dog knows your susceptible bunnies are there, the terrier will likely be back. This needs to be on the dog's record if rehomed, as the dog has a strong drive to kill defenseless mammals.
     
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    Likely if the dog is rehomed and continues to be left outdoors with minimal supervision, it will find other mammals to terrorize and kill.
     
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    I just want.to say I feel so much for your family and poor Ronnie. Sending lots of hugs.
     
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    I am with treasuredfriend, the neighborhood is probably not safe with that dog as he is displaying an extremely high prey drive. If rehomed, it would need to be out in the country where there are no prey animals around. Is that even possible? We are not experiencing all the extreme emotions of grief/anger you are so we can give opinions that are not clouded by those feelings. Is not safe to keep that dog. The family obviously have not invested time or money in training him and has failed miserably to supervise him. Giving him a second chance could mean another person's animal companion death. Or a child. He should be rehomed with stipulations on how he should be housed. If it was a pitbull, they would have confiscated and euthanized him. I saw a show where the dog was declared dangerous and was removed from the owner's house because he bit a smaller dog that yapped and napped at him. It is not fair to treat the terrier any different than a pittie. I don't know what state you are in and what the laws are to declare an animal dangerous. Don't let emotions and compassion for the dog owners decide your actions. He needs owners that are more capable of caring for him, or, sadly, euthanasia.
     
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    If you want the dog rehomed, that's what you should continue to fight for. I'm sorry you're going through this.
     
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    I am so sorry! When I was 9, I lost both my first rabbit and the replacement rabbit to the neighbor's dog. It wasn't entirely their fault, as the rabbit managed to find a hole in the fence to squeeze through both times and they both got killed in our front or side yard... but there are leash laws pretty much everywhere and it *really* chaps my behind when people disregard them!! I mean, do they WANT their dog hit by a car?? It's in the dog's best interest to be contained or leashed at all times, both for their own safety and to prevent them from becoming a neighborhood menace.

    In our neighborhood, many neighbors let their (un-altered) dogs run everywhere and sleep in the road! Heck, the dog that killed my childhood rabbits slept in the middle of our street, too. I was driving to work one day last summer and saw two ugly, mangy little dogs fornicating "people style" in the drainage ditch on our street! They stared me in the eyes really hard as I drove past. It was SUPER creepy but made a great story to tell when I got home, lol. I had no idea dogs ever did it in the missionary position o_O (and quite frankly, I could happily have gone my whole life without learning that fact).

    Their dog is out of control and if it were me, I'd be lobbying for prosecution. Tied up and muzzled is cruel and euthanizing a dog for doing what comes naturally isn't really fair (it's the owner's fault, not the dog's)... but if you do nothing, the problem continues and if you re-home the dog there's nothing stopping the same neighbors from getting a new dog and causing the problem all over again. Actual repercussions for the irresponsible owners strikes me as the best way to prevent a recurrence.
     

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