Thanks yes ive brought her and her partner into the lounge to keep an eye on her just taken her to the vet who has given her a shot of rimadyl for pain and metoclopramide gut stimuland, he told me to syringe feed her with an added prebiotic until she starts eating properly but at least her back teeth are fine thanks goodness, I have stopped the veg oat hay and only going to give her small amount of pellets the ones i use are called science selective which dont contain any sugar but it still could be them, so if no improvement will stop them as well, trouble is she is not a great hay eater so dare not cut everything out just yet. but now i know her teeth are ok she is going to get the touch love approach hay hay and more hay little monkey thanks for your advice this site is great as everyone understands how stressful it is when one of your bunnies is not well friends and family listen but I dont think they understand lol I bore them to death with it but many thanks.