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  1. Feb 10, 2020 #21

    Diane R

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    Hi Eve, congrats! As others have said, it is not true that baby bunnies are easier to train, quite the opposite. It is also impossible to know what their personalities will be like when they are that young. Do not introduce a 4th bunny, that could upset the existing bond. Never go to breeders for advice. What they said about pregnancy is pure nonsense. And please don't breed. There are so many thousands of bunnies in rescue centres looking for a good home... Best to get the female spayed at 16 weeks before she gets hormonal as that could result in fights. And yes, it is possible the ears will still drop, they are still very young.
     
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  2. Feb 10, 2020 #22

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    Hi,
    I would have another question, will they still grow with being 15/16 weeks old or will they stay as big as now forever?

    Thanks
    Eve
     
  3. Feb 10, 2020 #23

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    They will grow until they turn 1 year old, so they will grow for a time ^^
     
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    They switch to an adult diet at 6 months of age. That usually means cutting out any alfalfa-based pellets or alfalfa hay and switching to grass-based pellets/hay. If they aren't already getting timothy hay (or other grass hay), that can be started already. By 6 months, pellets get reduced too to a measured amount based on their weight.

    They are already old enough to be slowly introduced to greens as well.
     
  5. Feb 11, 2020 #25

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    Hi
    Thanks for the information! I started already to feed them salads (also Ruccola) and carrots with the green on top and dried herbs is that ok?

    You read different things online, some say main food should be hay and water and others say main food should be greens and fresh food.... what do they always mean with greens ? Salad and grass etc? How many carrots a day etc?

    The only thing I realised is the more fresh stuff I give them the less water they drink which I think is good isn’t it?

    What about when you cut your grass in the summer can u just give them the cut grass too?
    I also have a herb garden, can I give them Rosmarin? I read oregano is good for them also sage.
    Thanks again
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    Ps. The sister of my mother in law lives in America
     
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    If you have been feeding them greens for a while then it should be fine. Watch for squishy of liquid poop and feed a lot of hay. Another good food option is owlets. If you can get some healthy rabbit pellets that would be another good option.As for the breeding, it can be dangerous and the breeder will still have to keep your female for a month or two after the babies are born. I would say that it’s probably not worth the risk. The best way to fix any behavioral problems would be to get her fixed.
     
  7. Feb 11, 2020 #27

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    The hutch size is fine. The ears on the chocolate one WILL drop. It’s only 9 weeks old. Some of mine took a year to drop.
     
  8. Feb 12, 2020 #28

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    Never give them grass that the lawnmower has cut, I read that the emissions from the mower can contaminate it. Just cut it with scissors first what you need before the mower cuts it.
    Also carrots are not good daily. Tops are good though. Apparently they should have carrots very sparingly. Twice a month for my buns, and just a small amount.
    A few pellets a day is good, along with fresh veggies but 80 percent of their diet should be hay. I also give them a small piece of Apple for a treat a few times a week. (Tablespoon amt) mine love banana but I find if too much is given, makes their poop a bit soft.
    Good luck with your buns!
     
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    Small world! :)

    There are definitely certain greens that are better tolerated than others. Certain things have too much sugar (carrots - the root) or too much calcium or oxolates (mustard green or parsley) to feed daily but can be fed on occasion.

    Some rabbits will not tolerate certain greens too. This is why it is recommended to offer just one type at a time when starting out. If you feed some fresh spinach, for example, and bunny starts to have mushy poos, then you know to stop feeding that. But if you fed him spinach, kale and parsley all at one time, then you won't know which one caused the issue.

    So as you introduce new things, keep it to one type at a time. You can add a variety once you know what your bunny tolerates.

    Feel free to check out the following page of my website. It reviews how to introduce greens and also has a couple lists of greens -- one list of greens safe for daily use and another list for occasional. I'll apologize in advance about the format. It shows well on a computer or laptop. Unfortunately, the host site does not do a good job of converting to a mobile version. I don't like how it moves things around for mobile viewing. Anyway, here it is:
    https://rabbitsindoors.weebly.com/greens--veggies.html

    Btw, the green tops of carrots are great for rabbits. The carrot root is best viewed more as a treat. Carrots or fruit are higher in sugar. It is recommended to wait on treats until bunny is used to a variety of greens as part of his daily diet. After that, he can have 1-2 tbsp of fruit per day. (sorry that's not metric) So if he gets a slice of apple one day, he doesn't get any banana or carrot that day.

    You'll get to know your bunny's tolerances as he gets older. Some rabbits will have tummy issues if given that one slice of apple. Others seem to be able to tolerate much more. So the general recommendation is 1-2 tbsp.

    I've had a rabbit that could eat all kinds of junk (years ago, before I knew better) and be just fine. My current rabbit will start having issues if I give him more than a few craisins. Just depends on the rabbit.
     
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  10. Feb 14, 2020 at 11:50 AM #30

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    Hi,
    Thanks did not have a look at your link yet. But does that mean I can feed them unlimited: salads and spinach and grass once they got used to it?

    As I said I was really disappointed to receive 15 week old rabbits and not 9 week old ones.

    I don’t really trust the breeder anymore. And as I read along about health and care for rabbits yesterday I found out to my surprise that he maybe was wrong again....

    So I have chosen my rabbits on a Sunday and wanted to collect them next day on the Monday but could not collect them as the boys got neutered that day and was told I could pick them up the following day (Tuesday).

    Which means the got neutered with 14/15/16 weeks apart from the girl. Isn’t that too late for an early castration? Meaning I would have needed to keep them separate for at least six weeks?
    The breeder said where there is nothing to cut we can’t cut something. But I read for a early castration the bowls are still inside meaning it’s going to be a bigger operation and they need a few days to recover, which also doesn’t fit to the point that I collected them a day later and he didn’t have any fur shaved off underneath his belly etc.

    Hmm... still need to learn a lot about rabbits.

    Thanks again
    Eve
     
  11. Feb 14, 2020 at 3:22 PM #31

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    Ive been told they can't be neutered or spayed before 6 months of age...is your vet an exotic vet? Specialized in rabbits? Why would a vet do more to a bunny than what's needed?? Doesn't sound right to me
     
  12. Feb 14, 2020 at 3:28 PM #32

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    Normal vets can neuter them from 8 weeks onwards. Six months would be way too late!
     
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    My baby bun is 11 weeks old, and they can't even tell the sex yet, so I've been told to wait a minimum of 20 weeks.
    A regular vet fixed my boy (it's dad) but he was two years old.
     
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    What I was surprised about, is the bunny bowels you stated...???
     
  15. Feb 14, 2020 at 4:29 PM #35

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    Uppsss sorry how embarrassing I meant the testicle. It’s not my first language so I sometimes get words wrong like in this case
     
  16. Feb 14, 2020 at 4:39 PM #36

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    Hi,
    From what I read but like I said I’m new to rabbits so the experience is missing, is that you can sex them with 5 weeks onwards but latest 8- 12 weeks.

    That you can neuter/ castrate them early with earliest 8 weeks but only until 12 weeks, it has the benefit that the hormones haven’t developed yet, so it’s stays kinda a kid forever and also as the hormones haven’t developed yet you don’t have to separate him from the females.

    The “normal” castration you can do from 13 weeks onwards and the benefit from this surgery is that the testicles are already developed so you basically just have to cut them rather than cut open the belly as the testicle would be in there until about 12 weeks.
    But minus point is, that the hormones have already developed and you have to separate him at least 6 weeks from any females as he can impregnate them.

    And the breeder did not mention something to me, more the opposite I have to have them together for bonding. And I’m wondering if he can make this early castration with my rabbits when they were already 15 weeks old

    Thanks again and sorry for my English
    Eve
     
  17. Feb 14, 2020 at 5:27 PM #37

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    Around here vets will neuter boys as soon as the testicles descend. With females, it depends on the vet when they will do it. Usually, as early as 4 months to 6 months.
     
  18. Feb 14, 2020 at 5:48 PM #38

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    But will you have to keep the males away from the females for six weeks afterwards or is it as early that the hormones haven’t developed yet?
    Thanks
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  19. Feb 14, 2020 at 6:00 PM #39

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    You have to keep males away from females for 6-8 weeks because they can still get her pregnant. The hormones have to do when you are bonding to a spayed female. If the female is spayed you can start bonding as soon as the hormones die down. With females, they can't get pregnant after a spay but it is recommended to wait 4 weeks before bonding to let them heal and that's about when the hormones will be gone.
     
  20. Feb 14, 2020 at 6:29 PM #40

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    How can a female still get pregnant after a spay? They do a total hysterectomy . I don't think that's possible...lol
     

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