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I found an American Fuzzy Lop, it says she is an Adult, but doesn't have a specific age, which is GREAT for me! I also have always loved lops!


I get waaay ahead of myself, when I still don't know if i'll be able to get a bun or not!
 
Well browsing and looking for buns that need a home is a great way to start!!!!
When I got my first bunny Benji I was only...just turned 15, so my parents really had the deciding choice as to whether I could or not. But what made them 'let' me, was that Benji needed a home.

So it wasn't like 'I would like a rabbit', it was 'This rabbit desperately needs a new, loving home, and I would really love to give him that home!'.
However, you might get attached to the bunny if you 'choose' one first, and that can really hurt if you get your hopes up.


Well, if you had a 9lb rabbit, you would really need a hutch that was very large. A 4 1/2lb rabbit needs a space of a MINIMUM of about 5ft x 4ft (and that really is a minimum), so I would estimate that a 9lb rabbit would need....double that. Double the bunny, double the size. So you'd need about 10ft x 8ft.

Also, for your first rabbit, I would advise getting a smaller breed. They are easier to handle (note I say easiER, not easy- they MUST be handled in the right way, but we can all give you lots of advice on that ;) ), need less food, and I think are just altogether a better 'starter' rabbit than a rabbit that weighs as much as an Australian Silky Terrier, but with about 4 times the strength in its back legs.
 
MCatCar wrote:
The American Fuzzy Lop, I have read gets about 3 1/2 ishh pounds! :)

Yep :). Well that sounds great! With the American Fuzzy Lop, you might have to pay a little more attention to upkeep of the fur. It's wonderful for bonding too, having grooming sessions. You'll probably need a brush, and a comb, and a few times a week give her coat a brush to keep the tangles out.
Apparently I read (now this may not be true, and perhaps someone with a Fuzzy Lop could correct me on this?), that overbrushing the Fuzzy lop's coat can diminish the density, so blowing the tangles out with a 'blower'is best??:?

Lol. The image in my head is making me laugh.
 
Hmm, I found a dutch mix, that have faced death before being moved to a new shelter, she is ADORABLE! Her and the AFL are my favorites! :)
 
Some people on here can reallly be rude! Someone PM'd me and asked if I could possibly keep a rabbit outside, I said no, and that I didn't think it would get as good of care as she would inside. She basically called me lazy, said that neutering/spaying wasn't good for them, and said I must not really want a rabbit, because I won't put her outside.

I have a dog, and it gets really hot, and really cold. She just said I must really not want a rabbit. She was VERY rude.
 
MCatCar wrote:
Some people on here can reallly be rude! Someone PM'd me and asked if I could possibly keep a rabbit outside, I said no, and that I didn't think it would get as good of care as she would inside. She basically called me lazy, said that neutering/spaying wasn't good for them, and said I must not really want a rabbit, because I won't put her outside.

I have a dog, and it gets really hot, and really cold. She just said I must really not want a rabbit. She was VERY rude.
Really? That should never have been said. Rabbits inside require just as much time and care as those that live outside! Litter-trays still need to be cleaned, pen's need to be cleaned and checked, food, hay, water, exercise time, socialising....I really don't see how rabbits that live inside require any less time and effort than those that live outside.

Erm......whoever said that neutering and spaying wasn't good for rabbits clearly doesn't know what they are talking about.
Neutering and spaying help with aggression, behavioural/dominance issues, spraying, littertray habits etc.
Also, does that are unspayed after about 2 years old develop quite a high risk of getting uterine cancer, so every doe that isn't intended to be bred from really MUST be spayed. It is in their best interests for their health and wellbeing.

I am surprised that someone would PM you when they clearly don't really know at ALL what they are talking about, so I am very sorry that someone on here said that to you.

I have to say, I would always recommend that a rabbit lived inside. It protects them from changes in temperature, and extreme temperatures, predators, flies etc.
Also, it is much easier to see their natural behaviour/habits, so therefore is much easier to notice any changes which could then develop into something problematic, which can be caught early due to noticed changes.
Also, socialising is much easier when the bun lives inside, and is free running (with supervision), like cats and dogs.

However, rabbits that live outside also can have all of this, as long as the owner is willing to put the work in. My rabbits 'live' technically oustide, in a very large shed with levels etc., together, so they have one another in the night. Here in the England the weather is not so harsh, so that isn't much of a problem. Also, we don't have as many predators here outside, such as coyotes, wild dogs etc., only foxes etc., but I'd pretty much say my rabbits are 100% protected from any predator. They would have to get through a huge fence, and then would have to break through the most reinforced shed, with the thickest wire that not even the strongest person could bend, with about 4 heavy bolts and pegs on each door.
They spend 5/6 hours a day in their run (which is very large), and spend about 5 hours a day inside with me, so I know my buns have the best life possible. They are with eachother, and then spend many hours with me, so they are sort of outside/indoor buns. When they are not in their run, or at night, they are inside the house (in a large rabbit-proofed room).

Again, I'm sorry someone took the time to post that to you.
You clearly are NOT lazy, looking at all the research you have done into rabbit ownership- the many hours of reading and researching and talking about. If you do so much before you even GET a rabbit, think how good you will be when you have one.
:)
 
And I also just want to add, that most people on here are not like that at all, so don't let that be a representation of the kind of person you find here :)
 
MCatCar wrote:
Some people on here can reallly be rude! Someone PM'd me and asked if I could possibly keep a rabbit outside, I said no, and that I didn't think it would get as good of care as she would inside. She basically called me lazy, said that neutering/spaying wasn't good for them, and said I must not really want a rabbit, because I won't put her outside.

I have a dog, and it gets really hot, and really cold. She just said I must really not want a rabbit. She was VERY rude.

Could you please forward this PM to me or any mod so we can handle this. Its is not allowed on this forum. To bad mouth people.

Kat
 
I've done it!

Back on topic, anyone come up with any new ways to convince my mom? I have been really responsible lately! We're redecorating, and I've moved boxes, furnitrure, consistently taken great care of my pets, cleaned up after eating etc,
 
As far as cage size goes, bigger is better. I have 2 smaller rabbits that are bonded and share a cage. It is an NIC cage (you can see pics of similar cages in the Caging area of the forum) that is 2X3X4 grids. It is 2 2X2 levels and gives them enough space. These rabbits weigh 3.5 and 4.5 pounds. They also get out of cage time.
My Giant Angora who weights about 10 pounds has a 2X4 grid cage and a run attached. She is in the run during the day but only in the cage at night. The run is 3X5ish grids. I do have another rabbit in the same area, so he run used to be bigger, about 3X8ish girds. She does to go around the room once in a while.

If you can't provide a run or a lot of out of cage time, then a larger cage is better. If you have a run or can give lots of out of cage time, the cage can be smaller. Some people have free range rabbits and the cage is only for the litter box, food and water.

You seem to have found the worst part of looking for a rabbit, you want them all. It is hard not to take home every rabbit that needs a home.
 
I know! I love all of them! I found one I really like, but after I convince my mom, I think I'm going to hold out for a holland lop, I LOVE lops!

Any ideas on convincing my mom?
 
Hi, I'm new on the forums and I've also just bought 2 bunnies last saturday. I was lucky 'cause my mom likes them. They live outside though 'cause mom says their pee smells too strong and yeah. ]: But I cover them with blankets so they don't feel cold.

Anyways, back on-topic, you could show her bunny videos likes this one: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phf9jalQBjw]Rabbit Clicker training[/ame] and she'll see how smart they are. They can learn to use a litter box and lots of other things. :] Or cute videos of them too [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jCtlTNsc1Q]Baby holland lop bunnies[/ame].
 
Thanks I might try that! Me and my dad talk about them a lot, so she'll see that we're in it together, adn we're determined.
 
I just thought of an idea to convince her. When I wanted to get more guinea pigs, to keep my guinea pig company after her friend died, I asked my parents can I get them as my Christmas present. So if your birthday is coming up in the next few months, then you could ask if it can be your birthday present?
 
CiaraPatricia- I asked for money for my birthday, so that I could spend that money on a rabbit. & She wasn't very happy!

***UPDATE***

I talked to my dad when I got home, and he was talking about it to my mom this morning, and she wasn't opposing it in a harsh, rude way! She didn't directly oppose it, so he thinks we have hope! :)
 
The only thing that is concerning me, is that she really really seems against having a rabbit. If she feels THIS strongly about not wanting a rabbit, then maybe it is best not to try and 'force' it on her.
She knows what she wants, and clearly doesn't seem open to changing her mind or listening to you.

Even if you managed to force her into agreeing, would that be in the best interests for the bun? Unless she would play no part in the care, or anything to do with the rabbit, and in that case it wouldn't really matter if she really didn't like or want anything to do with the bun. How much involvement will she have in the care of him/her?
If she does, then can u trust her to clean out the poopy litter tray while you are at your mates for the weekend, and your dad is working? etc. Will she check the bun willingly all over while you are not there, if she really doesn't want it etc? She may do-she may be totally vigilent with it, even though she doesn't like the rabbit, which would be absolutely fantastic of her. :nod

Would she help you out financially? Do you have a job? She may be angry if she is forced into having a bun, and then vet trips are costing £100-£200, very unexpectedly (not uncommon at all for rabbits- I myself have had two vet bills within this region in the past few weeks, for something as simple as incisor-trims, vaccinations, and check-ups), so she may decide she didn't 'agree to this' and make you give the bun up? Then there would be ANOTHER bun in a shelter, no owner, waiting for a home. :cry2
Perhaps if she agrees, once she sees/starts bonding with the bun, then she may change her mind, and actually decides she loves bunnies!! :).

Jen
 
What are the reasons your mom doesn't want to have a bunny? There should be some.

And if it were my case, since dad and I are on one side then it's 2 vs. 1. We'd win. Democracy? D; It's funny also in my family, 'cause when I want something I ask my mom and she tells me 'ask your dad' and then he tells me 'ask your mom'. xD
 

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