post spay: holding leg up, poopy butt, not eating/drinking much (RIP)

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pumpkinhead

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Tabitha was spayed exactly one week ago. She seemed to recover well for the first few days and was eating, drinking and pooping totally normally by day 3. Her spay incision was placed on her right side rather than on her stomach - she must have chewed out her external stitches late on the second day, there were only two of them and by the time we noticed they were gone. On the morning of day 4 we moved her from a confined plastic box inside back to her freshly cleaned outside cage.

The day before yesterday (day 5) we noticed she seemed a little shaky and was quite still, and her poops were a bit smaller and darker or squarer and squishier than usual. Seemed unwilling to move very much but would scoot away quickly when you reached into the cage.

Yesterday, when she was moving she was holding her back right leg up. More resistant to move than before. We took her to the vet. Vet examined her, said she had a normal range of movement in both legs and no pain response when they were manipulated. Temperature was very slightly high but 'nothing to worry about'. Tabitha was surprisingly accepting of vet holding her on her back, taking her temperature etc - vet attributed it to fear but I now believe Tabitha is generally 'floppy'. Vet thought perhaps scar contracture was causing pain, or she had strained a muscle, or possibly damaged her hip. Gave her an injection for pain just in case, and some metacam to take home to begin administering tonight... told to make another appointment if there was no improvement. Yesterday night Tabitha was still sitting in one corner of her cage, would nibble some veg, didn't seem very interested in food or drink.

Today Tabitha is worse. Now she does not just have small dry poops and some larger squishy ones but also they are sticking to her butt and she is not getting them off. Her poo smells very bad. She's very sluggish and lethargic - normally resists being held but now is largely limp when carried. Has urinated since yesterday but not very much. Will not move from where she is placed. She is sucking her stomach in I believe because I can clearly feel her ribs which I normally cannot.

We have made another vet appointment in 2 hours time, but I am reeeally worried about her. I have put her in her carrier until the appointment with plain straw, 2 bok choy leaves and a bowl of water, with a hot water bottle under the first layer of the towel beneath her.
 
could she have picked up coccidia from another animal at the vet? Or been a carrier before and stress of the surgery is now causing it to become active?
 
never mind. You can delete the thread. Tabitha began to seize during the vet examination and passed away shortly after.

I'm completely gutted. The vet (a rabbit specialist this time) thinks that she wasn't drinking or eating enough as she seemed very pale and dehydrated and her temperature was low. He believes she was just overly stressed by the surgery and everything which followed. I thought i was doing the right thing with the spay but by the sounds of it, ultimately that was the cause... she was probably just a bit more skittish and sensitive than a lot of rabbits and took it harder.
 
I'm very sorry for your loss. :( RIP Tabitha

You were trying to do the right thing by getting her spayed. It's rare for the outcome to be this way when using a rabbit savvy vet but there are always risks involved in surgery. Again, I'm terribly sorry for your awful experience.
 
thank you for your sympathy...
I just can't believe that the morning of the 20th she was a perfectly healthy, happy, energetic young rabbit and now she's gone. It's just the most horrible feeling that there was nothing wrong with her. I know it's the right thing to do to get girl rabbits desexed.... but there is no escaping the fact that she would be alive if we hadn't done it.

I'm so sorry my baby girl.

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:( Hey, you just wanted the best for her and you tried helping her. Please don't blame yourself for having done something or have not. All you did is because you love her. No one knew this will happen. Again, I'm so sorry.
:rip: Tabitha
 
oh my gosh! i am so sorry to hear this. you were the very best for her and it is just so unfortunate this happened. I know exactly how you feel i had a very similar experience with my rabbit, she had a seizure at the vets and passed away....so traumatic and unexpected. :in tears:
 
I'm so sorry. Do not blame yourself at all. Did the vet give you take-home pain meds? It's rare for them to mess with the incision like that. Did she have stitches or surgical glue on the external incision site?
 
were so sorry you lost that darling little girl. Tabitha was sure a darling. You need to stop beating yourself up as you did do the right thing by her. Sometimes it just happens no matter how hard we strive. Johnny Cash had a song that sums it up very well, "I don't like it but I guess things happen that way". Rest in peace little angel and binky free.:bunnyangel:
 
It was a different vet who did the surgery, he was the one who did Toby's neuter and that all went well, so I never expected he would be so bad with the girls. He didn't give us pain meds at all. There was no glue, only stitches, but the rabbit specialist vet said the surgery site looked good and had been healing well. I gave her a hot water bottle and .1 ml (4 mg) of 3 months baby nurofen a couple of times, but after about the first day she was quite active and was nibbling hay and vegies and oats. By day 3 she was eating all her foods again and I saw her drinking from her bowl a couple of times (before that I had been giving her water with a dropper) and she still seemed happy and active by day 5 - I never suspected she was still not drinking anywhere near enough. Her water bowl level was going down, but I guess a rabbit that size needs much more water than I thought? She was still pooping and peeing right til the end, although the poops didn't look right, there were still enough of them that I never suspected she was this bad.

We took her to a different vet clinic when she started acting oddly (holding the leg up, ginger to be touched). We thought she had caught her leg somewhere in her cage and hurt it, we didn't realise it could be a symptom of a totally different problem. The vet examining for damage to her leg probably worsened her stress a lot without realising it. That vet was not a rabbit specialist, since it was a Sunday and only 2 vets were on for emergency consults, and didn't say anything about her seeming pale and dehydrated, so maybe it only started to go bad that evening or the vet just didn't notice. The next day when we asked for the rabbit specialist specifically he picked up right away that she was very unwell, but by that time it was too late to do anything.

Even if we had known that she wasn't doing as well as she seemed, and been able to give sub Qs - I don't know if she would have recovered anyway, because that would just be more stress, and that's what seemed to be the problem.
 
Oh wow I'm so sorry for your loss. She was a very beautiful bunny. It is so tragic. I recently lost my lop ear bunny to complications of megacolon. He wasn't even 4yo yet. It went so fast. He was fine on Sunday, had some gassy pains on Monday, was doing terrible by friday and passed late friday night. I'm still in shock, as I'm sure you are. Just know that you did what you thought best for her, and that's all you can do. RIP little Tabitha:(
 
Gosh... I just got all teary-eyed... I hadn't realized it was her. I've always found her absolutely beautiful. Always been my dream to have a magpie lop... Again, so sorry for your loss. So sad. :(

It seriously makes me consider my position when it comes to Giggles. It's been on my mind since I've gotten her... Maybe she will be my exception and I will get only Smores neutered instead, especially since they aren't too experienced with spayings here if I was correctly informed.

RIP beautiful :rainbow:
 
My goal is not to assign blame, but I would not use those vets again. She should have had surgical glue as they will not bother with that as much as with stitches, and she should have had strong pain meds. I'm so sorry she is gone.
 
I'm so very sorry you lost your precious little girl..so very sad..
 
tonyshuman wrote:
My goal is not to assign blame, but I would not use those vets again. She should have had surgical glue as they will not bother with that as much as with stitches, and she should have had strong pain meds. I'm so sorry she is gone.
Yes, we will not be - that's why we went to the other vets when she didn't seem well :( we were not very happy with them at all.
 
Oh I'm so sorry for your loss! I remember seeing a picture of you holding Tabitha in some other post, and I fell in love with her immediately. I didn't know about harlequins until that picture, and thought she was one of the most beautiful buns I'd ever seen. Tabitha has been in my mind ever since (also because I loved the name as well).

RIP Tabitha. You did what you thought was best for her, and that is all. There are always things that can go wrong with anything in life.

:pray:
 
tonyshuman wrote:
My goal is not to assign blame, but I would not use those vets again. She should have had surgical glue as they will not bother with that as much as with stitches, and she should have had strong pain meds. I'm so sorry she is gone.
My deepest sympathies on losing Tabitha. They leave a huge hole in our hearts when they pass away. Unexpectedly is a heartwrenching hurt. Then the questions swirl about? Why?!

A foster boy (in our care) was dropped at the clinic to be neutered several years ago, and no pain meds were given when the "listed" rabbit-savvy vet went into his abdomen for a cryptorchid neuter procedure. I will never recommend that vet again.
Same vet where Karla came back with fractured limbs.

Was an internal organ nicked or harmed when the internal ovariohysterectomy was done? Any thoughts on having a necropsy done for your precious girl, by a different vet?


 
We were considering getting a post-mortem done - the rabbit specialist we saw on the day she died had offered to do it us for what seemed a reasonable amount. But we couldn't really afford to do it after all the unexpected vet fees, and in any case it wouldn't bring her back to know :(. We're more worried at the moment about keeping Toby healthy, since he has been really stressed by what's happened and Tabitha not being around.
 

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