ratmom
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Is this normal for hollands? Hubby thinks so, because the way their body is shaped he can't reach down there. I trim down there constantly and baths are the norm for him and nothing seems to help.
Poopy butt with hollands
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Happi Bun
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Ditto to Flashy, it's definitely not normal. However, I have met a few Hollands with this problem. There is always some underlying problem causing it, whether that be health or environment related, not just their breed. For example, urinary track problems or digestive problems causing soft stool.
ratmom
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Wilbur is just over 4lbs, he has the long holland hair. It seems to get worse when he sheds of course. He's had this ever since he was an adult he's 4 years old. He's on the small world rabbit feed that is made by manna pro. Oxbow timothy hay, but he hasn't been eating much of it so I plan on switching again. Our other bun is on the same food also. He loves parsley, kale, dandelion greens etc etc. When I bathe him he will be good for 3-4 days then all of a sudden he will have the build up so I have to bathe him. I trim as much as I can down there too I'm thinking about getting a shaver to see if that will help.
I'm kinda thinking my pet rats are a bad influence on him. He thinks he's a rat he's been around them since he was a little guy and just adores being in the rat room with them. He gets very jealous when they get fed or get treats.
I'm kinda thinking my pet rats are a bad influence on him. He thinks he's a rat he's been around them since he was a little guy and just adores being in the rat room with them. He gets very jealous when they get fed or get treats.
I'm moving this to the infirmary
I just tried to find Small World br Manna Pro but could only find this
http://mannapro.com/ss_pro_tech.htm
Where do you buy this product??? I don't want to make a comment and be talking about a different product.
First of all how much pellets do you feed daily and how much greens do you feed daily.
I am guessing that this is a dietary issue and that the solution is to slowly( Imean slowly) cut back on the veggies and pellets until your rabbit finds his hay appealing..
my rabbits also eat oxbow hay and they eat a whole lot ( Oxbow hay thatI have sent for has been amazingly wonderful and any bun should love it)of it because I have cut way back on pellets and give moderate greens.
You should just start over with the greens giving only 1 kind each day to see if mushy poops occur. I could not feed my rabbits a lot of kale without issues.
Not all buns handle the greens the same just like people...
http://mannapro.com/ss_pro_tech.htm
Where do you buy this product??? I don't want to make a comment and be talking about a different product.
First of all how much pellets do you feed daily and how much greens do you feed daily.
I am guessing that this is a dietary issue and that the solution is to slowly( Imean slowly) cut back on the veggies and pellets until your rabbit finds his hay appealing..
my rabbits also eat oxbow hay and they eat a whole lot ( Oxbow hay thatI have sent for has been amazingly wonderful and any bun should love it)of it because I have cut way back on pellets and give moderate greens.
You should just start over with the greens giving only 1 kind each day to see if mushy poops occur. I could not feed my rabbits a lot of kale without issues.
Not all buns handle the greens the same just like people...
jamesedwardwaller
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i was priveledged to have two mini-lops,.they-now- are both deceased,,one not both had this poopy butt syndrome,requireing at least weekly,bottom cleaning(small bath).,she was about 5 yr,s when she passed,./they had a diet-consisting of/.70%fiber,ie..timothy/orchard grass,.and low fat pellet,-1 oz.per#of bun,..small amount of dandylions,clover,grasses,,numerous exotic specialist visits,/.you can have a diet problem,and should have testing done to ensure there are no worms,parasites(gi-tract),.they were sisters saved from a pet store/they were in cedar shaving from birth (which in itself kills rabbits).-the second one died a short while ago at age 6 and half years-i miss them-,/.this is why i have a rehab,.and try to give them a good life,..sincerely james waller
ratmom
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Those pellets I get come from walmart. In the past I used the purina and I quit using it after I had a close call and both my bunnies quit eating it for some reason. So wilbur has been on this food for 1 1/2-2 years now. I free feed, because I never had any problems with weight on him. He's always stayed around the same weight. He used to love orchard grass so I think I will put him back on that.
It may be the free feeding. When I give some of mine more than a tiny amount of pellets they get excess cecals EVERYwhere. thankfully theirs don't stick to them, but that could be your problem. The free feeding pellets may also account for lack of hay consumption, but it might also be worth getting that bun checked out for dental problems in case they are the reason he eats less hay.
I agree with also deworming too.
Something else to think about is the risk of flystrike. Over here we can use rearguard to help protect vculnerable bunnies but not sure if you have that over there. Might be worth looking into.
I agree with also deworming too.
Something else to think about is the risk of flystrike. Over here we can use rearguard to help protect vculnerable bunnies but not sure if you have that over there. Might be worth looking into.
Small world by walmart is notgood quality food
here is some info
http://www.rabbitsonline.net/view_topic.php?id=12160&forum_id=17
there are other brands that can be purchased at feed stores that are cheaper yet high quality .
What is the issue with Purina ' I know some others here have had issues at times;I once used the Purina green bag.
free feeding may certinly be an issue here and I don't recommend it at all but if he is not putting on weights it could also be parasites.
here is some info
http://www.rabbitsonline.net/view_topic.php?id=12160&forum_id=17
there are other brands that can be purchased at feed stores that are cheaper yet high quality .
What is the issue with Purina ' I know some others here have had issues at times;I once used the Purina green bag.
free feeding may certinly be an issue here and I don't recommend it at all but if he is not putting on weights it could also be parasites.
anneq
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"What is the issue with Purina"
I'm feeding my buns at the moment blue bag Purina, and the bunnies are doing fine on it.
I'm feeding my buns at the moment blue bag Purina, and the bunnies are doing fine on it.
ratmom
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It was the green bag that we were feeding them and I just assumed it was some kind of mold or bad batch, we bought another bag and they were eating it fine. We switched to small world, because I didn't like buying those huge bags, because we only have 2 buns and it takes forever for them to go through it. He still had the poopy butt when we had him on the purina too though. Why isn't this food good quality? It's made by manna pro.
Wilbur has always been around the same weight whatever food we've had him on he's always been under 5 lbs which I read is normal for a holland. The only feed store here sells feed in 50lbs bags and It would go bad before I used it all lol.
Wilbur has always been around the same weight whatever food we've had him on he's always been under 5 lbs which I read is normal for a holland. The only feed store here sells feed in 50lbs bags and It would go bad before I used it all lol.
Can you post the first 4 ingredients ingredients on the back of the Small World pellet? is it a plain pellet or does it have colored bits in it?
Can you post the % in it like for protein, fat, fiber calcium?
I have heard it repeated by many on this forum that Small World is low quality but if you can post whatI asked I can tell you why . Like I said before I want to make sure that we are talking about the same pellet.
In terms of Purina... Peg (Tinysmom) had problems with it and if the feed store is selling moldy pellets there is nothing worse than that so out of the 2 choices you made a good choice.
It would be best for your bun, however if you lowered the pelled amount to 1/8 to 1/4th cup daily (slowly lower it ) and he will get hungry enough to eat hay
Can you post the % in it like for protein, fat, fiber calcium?
I have heard it repeated by many on this forum that Small World is low quality but if you can post whatI asked I can tell you why . Like I said before I want to make sure that we are talking about the same pellet.
In terms of Purina... Peg (Tinysmom) had problems with it and if the feed store is selling moldy pellets there is nothing worse than that so out of the 2 choices you made a good choice.
It would be best for your bun, however if you lowered the pelled amount to 1/8 to 1/4th cup daily (slowly lower it ) and he will get hungry enough to eat hay
http://www.makeminechocolate.org/rabbitdiet.php
you can click on each food item to see where it belongs in the pyramid and then close it by clicking at the bottom of the item
you can click on each food item to see where it belongs in the pyramid and then close it by clicking at the bottom of the item
ratmom
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The first several ingredients are Dehydrated alfalfa meal, wheat middlings, soybean hulls, soybean meal, feeding oatmeal & vegetable oil. Protein is 16%, Fat 2.50%, calcium .75%, fiber min 15% & max 20%. None of rainbow color bits or seed junk either it's just pellets. I'll start lowering their pellets slowly. Thanks for that good link I never knew they could eat lemon balm or tomatoes. If this food doesn't look right to you maybe you can recommend something, unless I need to put them on timothy pellets.
I have yet to know whether this is good or bad feed as on one site it was praised. Just lower the amount for now and it will help ; it doesn't sound bad with the ingredients listed
more feedback will probably come after this holiday weekend
more feedback will probably come after this holiday weekend
ratmom
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Thank you hopefully someone can help 
fancybutterfly
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Hi Ratmom.
I have two mini holland lops and both get poopy butt...one more than the other.
I have tries a couple different foods...and it remains the same.
I've had the buns since they were 10 weeks old. There now 2 1/2 years old. It's always been like that...the poopy butts I mean. I take them to get a prof. grooming and nails trimmed. It's done by a retiredvet tech. She says it's common with this breed. SHe trims them well down there. ANd I keep a check on it in between appointments
My boys are healthy and happy. So I don't worry too much about it.
I have two mini holland lops and both get poopy butt...one more than the other.
I have tries a couple different foods...and it remains the same.
I've had the buns since they were 10 weeks old. There now 2 1/2 years old. It's always been like that...the poopy butts I mean. I take them to get a prof. grooming and nails trimmed. It's done by a retiredvet tech. She says it's common with this breed. SHe trims them well down there. ANd I keep a check on it in between appointments
My boys are healthy and happy. So I don't worry too much about it.
ratmom
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Well I'm so glad someone can relate to me. I know I heard people with hollands have this problem before I just couldn't remember where. I'm still having a problem getting him to eat his hay though. He won't touch timothy or the orchard grass both oxbow. His teeth are fine too. I tried spraying juice on it and that didn't work. I got some samples of hay I'm trying and he nibbled on the oat, but I'm still not seeing him eat it. He only wants to eat pellets. My other bun the same thing so I'm thinking it's time to switch to a better pellet. Maybe a timothy pellet.
OakRidgeRabbits
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I have Hollands and have not seen this problem in any of my adult. However, I do have a Mixed Breed adult who is now around 8 years old and has had this poopy butt syndrome since she was around 5, maybe even earlier. I have found no reason for it. I've changed foods, I've added more fiber, taken away certain things, nothing helps. But she's healthy and happy, so I've just kind of let it go.
I do have to add in one comment though and that is that I had to use the Small World rabbit food in a pinch once and was surprised at how good it actually was. I think it's a pretty decent pet food.
I do have to add in one comment though and that is that I had to use the Small World rabbit food in a pinch once and was surprised at how good it actually was. I think it's a pretty decent pet food.
