Mall Security hates my bunnies

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  1. Jul 15, 2019 #1

    JetFalcon

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    I usually go to those outdoor shopping centers to take my bunnies, like an outdoor place that allows dogs.

    I live in Orange County, so I either go to Irvine Spectrum or Fashion Island to take my bunnies. Irvine Spectrum, I've been approached a few times, but they never say anything like "bunnies aren't allowed". Most the time, if they wanna check up on me, they drive by in their segway things and usually leave me alone. But they still checked up on me.

    But at Fashion Island, they seem to be more "strict" about my bunnies. Most the time, a security guard will come up to me and say "bunnies are not allowed here, only dogs". But they seem to not really do anything, they just say "bunnies aren't allowed" and walk away. Yesterday, I was told once bunnies aren't allowed, but the security guard walked away. I was there for another 2-3 hours letting kids pet my bunnies. But I notice security tends to come up to check on me if I put them on a leash and let them run around. They seem to not like the idea of bunnies on a leash probably. So security approached me again, saying bunnies aren't allowed, but they just left again not really enforcing anything.

    I mean I guess I'm thankful that security decided not to do much to me. All they do is keep warning me or telling me that bunnies aren't allowed, but end up walking away. They never tried to escort me off the property or give me a very firm final warning.

    I understand my bunnies create a spectacle, tons of kids and people become super excited and take their cameras out and crowd around me. I think mall security thinks my bunnies are a liability since tons of people crowd around me, maybe thinking my bunnies will bite someone. Nobody will crowd around a dog like they do a bunny, so I guess mall security gets paranoid when people start crowding towards one person.

    But if a mall allows dogs, a bunny is way less dangerous than a dog. Most bunnies will rather run away before they attacked someone. And some people bring humongous dogs. And I am sure some dog owners with intimidating looking dogs get judged by security even if the dog is mellow and not aggressive.

    I don't see why I'm getting judged for a freaking bunny. Everyone loves bunnies.
     
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  2. Jul 18, 2019 #2

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    I would call the company that owns the mall/their corperate office. As far as I know, there is NO REASON why a dog would be allowed, but not bunnies. The only exception would be a service dog, as only mini horses and dogs can be TRUE service animals. Emotional Support Animals do not count as Service Animals, as anything, even a roach can be a ESA.

    They only said that because they do not care for bunnies, and that is discrimination. Please call and complain, I hate this. This is why I dislike current dog culture; because they are treated as if they are the only animal that matters, bleh.
     
  3. Jul 18, 2019 #3

    Niomi

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    Dogs are more acceptable because people are more familiar with them. People are used to dogs as therapy animals and service animals, so they are more accepted. Allowing other animals, no matter how unfair it seems can end up becoming a problem. If they allow me to bring my rabbit, do they need to allow my neighbor to bring his Iguana? Then their is the question of zoonotic diseases. You might know that your rabbit is not going to pass around any diseases, but other people are ignorant and don't want to do the research. They really don't know that your rabbit is more safe than a dog. They might even think it can spread salmonella. I bring my rabbits to assisted living and memory care as a volunteer. Before bringing them in the door, I needed to supply the places with proof from my vet that they were disease free and safe to visit with elderly people.
     
  4. Jul 18, 2019 #4

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    I understand what you mean and I agree that is how most of society feels. However, when it comes to bringing too many types of exotics becoming a problem, I think that in reality, dogs are far more likely to be a problem than any other common animal, as they are a bit unpredictable no matter how friendly and well-trained they are.

    That being said, there are still no laws that I am aware of, that state some pets should be allowed and not others, especially when they are not remotely a threat. Again, the only exceptions are service animals, NOT therapy or emotional support animals. The ADA defines those as pets, as any animal can be one. Less than 5% of dogs are true service animals, and almost all of the online certification programs/vests are scams.

    I agree with most of what you said, and I truly apologize if I sound rude...I am just saying that it is not legal to allow pet dogs and not other animals like cats and rabbits. It is just bias, I guess and they need to be educated.
     
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  5. Jul 18, 2019 #5

    Niomi

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    What the laws are depend on where you live. I have never heard of a law that gives equal rights for animals. If all animals were allowed in malls, who would be responsible if a dog attacked your rabbit? Or if a child tried to pick up someone's cat and got clawed and the child got blood poisoning, could the mall get sued? I am sure there are legal problems to allowing animals in a mall. If we demand equal rights, then what will happen is probably all dogs will be banned from the mall with the exception of service dogs. I think it would be a good idea to consult with a lawyer before taking up the matter with the mall.
     

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