Is this flea product safe for rabbits??

[JimD]

The vet prescribed a topical flea treatment for our dog.
He said it would be safe to use on the dogs, and not to worry about it affecting the rabbits.

Vectra 3D

I've not heard of it before and was wondering if anyone knew anything about it's effects on rabbits.

Active ingrediants aredinotefuran (4.95%), permethrin (36.08%), and pyriproxifen (0.44%).

I'm plodding through all of the information I can find, but not having much luck on a definitive answer.

HELP!!

 

[ra7751]

I would not use it on or near a rabbit. It seems that there have been quitea few reports of side effects with this drug. And I just have to wonder, in my very limited knowledge on dogs, why you wouldn't use Revolution which has broader coverage of parasites. I will send out an e-mail to a vet friend that is a dog/cat specialist and see what she has to say about this drug.

Randy

 

[naturestee]

Cross-post from Facebook:

Never heard of it. But a quick check shows it's not safe for cats and has major warnings for ingestion, including cats licking it off of dogs. It's not approved for use on animals other than dogs. http://www.drugs.com/vet/vectra-3d.html


...don't let them play with the dogs. I think recommendations for other similar drugs is a 24 hour separation, but don't take that as gospel.

 

[JimD]

Thanks, Randy.
I was hoping you'd see this.
Thanks for the quick reply.

No product was applied to the rabbits.

My wife took the dogs to the vet and administered all of the meds as instructed.
I didn't find out that the vet had prescribed a topical until it was already done.


The product is already applied to the dogs.
However, the dogs have no direct contact with the rabbits.
The rabbits have the basement room, and the dogs are not allowed down there.

Everyone has very strictinstructions about washing hands after touching the dogs, and only I handle the rabbits and their things (ie; hay,feed, water, bowls, bottles, blankets, litter pans/litter, etc.). All the rabbit supplies are stored in the basement and garage, so there little chance of contamination.

 

[JimD]

Thanks, Angela.

Yeah, the stuff I could find about it kind of worried me.
Especially the part about not using it on cats.

 

[Niomi]

If you need to use a flea treatment on your rabbits, Advantage for cats if pretty safe for rabbits for flea control. It comes in drops that you put on the back of the neck of the rabbit, one drop per pound of rabbit, once a month. You can find it over the counter at pet stores. Do not use Advantage for dogs or Frontline.

If you need to treat the area for fleas, poultry dust works well. It is safe for most rabbits, although there are rare exceptions. Poultry dust can be purchased at a farm supply store. The main ingredient is Permethrine.

 

[JimD]

Thanks, Niomi.

Hopefully I won't have to treat the rabbits or their area.
The dogs have no contact with the rabbits and are not allowed in their room.

The Vectra 3D is suppose to kill 96% of the fleas in 6 hours.
The vet also gave them a pill that is suppose to kill all stages of fleas.
I have to find the vet report to see what pill he gave them.

 

[ra7751]

Just for information regarding flea control on rabbits. Ivermectin has been used for years for many parasites. Technically Ivermenctin is an antibiotic. Does carry some side effects especially if overdosed. Advantage has been used but there have been some reports of serious problems (keeping in mind that any medical treatment carries risk). We use Revolution and have never had a problem. And it gets some of the internal parasites too. We have also used Capstar quite a bit with wildlife....and that can be adminstered orally, suppository or the pill can be crushed and used as a spritz. NEVER use Frontline or the "dime store" stuff available at discount and pet stores.....and the cheap stuff is dangerous even for dogs and cats.

I am still wondering why vets aren't using Revolution more....guess it's the price. But you get what you pay for.

Randy

 

[JimD]

ra7751 wrote:

We have also used Capstar quite a bit with wildlife....and that can be adminstered orally,....

Randy

I found the report, and that's what the vet prescribed for the dogs....Capstar.
One dose for 25+ lb

And....

Vectra 3D
And Lilah-doggy got an injection of Depro Medrol (steriod?), because she's having an alergicreaction fromthe fleas.

 

[JimD]

I must have washed my hands 20 times since I got home.
They're all wrinkled!!

 

[ra7751]

Depo-Medrol is a steroid. Capstar is a really amazing drug. Works no matter how you use it. You can give it every day if necessary. You can literally see the fleas dying and falling off within a half an hour after administering the drug. And it seems to have no side effects.

 

[Sweetie]

Niomi: Advantage for dogs can be used on rabbits. It has to say for puppies 0 to 9 lbs on the package. Because cats/kittens get the same dosage, 0 to 9 lbs for the cats/kittens. I have advantage for dogs and puppies 7 weeks and older and it does list cats and kittens 0 to 9 lbs. It doesn't matter what advantage you get, dogs/puppies or cats/kittens, it is the same thing for both. Just make sure you give the right dosage to your rabbit. Which would be the cat/kitten dosage.

 

[Maureen Las]

Jim
I wonder why your vet would even prescribed anything like Vectra 3D . I never heard of it before and had to look it up. I wonder if it is a lot less expensive than the more well known flea and tick treatments for dogs. :?

 

[Hazel-Mom]

What I've been wondering for a while now is, how safe are all those products for humans?
I mean, people generally spend a good deal of time petting and handling their pets, even after they have been treated.
Do those products cross the skin barrier? Do they have an accumulative effect? Does anyone know whether there have been long-term studies on this issue?

 

[Mrs. PBJ]

I have always used frontline on phoenix living in a apartment in houston its the only thing that keeps fleas off. There horrible down here.

I have never had a problem with storm getting sick from her. Boss used frontline also.

I don't have to put anything on storm.

Revolution advantage dont work on the fleas here the only thing that does is frontline. Storm gets a dose of cap star once a month just in case

 

[JimD]

Hazel-Mom wrote:

What I've been wondering for a while now is, how safe are all those products for humans?
I mean, people generally spend a good deal of time petting and handling their pets, even after they have been treated.
Do those products cross the skin barrier? Do they have an accumulative effect? Does anyone know whether there have been long-term studies on this issue?

I'm not too happy that he prescribed this stuff.

Here's the warning on the label if you get it on you.....YIKES!!.....




If On Skin
Take off contaminated clothing. Rinse skin immediately with plenty of water for 15-20 minutes. Call a poison control center, doctor, or 1-888-426-4435 immediately for treatment advice.

Have the product container or label with you when calling a poison control center or doctor or going for treatment. You may contact 1-888-426-4435 for emergency medical treatment information.

 

[Maureen Las]

JimD wrote:

Hazel-Mom wrote:

What I've been wondering for a while now is, how safe are all those products for humans?
I mean, people generally spend a good deal of time petting and handling their pets, even after they have been treated.
Do those products cross the skin barrier? Do they have an accumulative effect? Does anyone know whether there have been long-term studies on this issue?

I'm not too happy that he prescribed this stuff.

Here's the warning on the label if you get it on you.....YIKES!!.....




If On Skin
Take off contaminated clothing. Rinse skin immediately with plenty of water for 15-20 minutes. Call a poison control center, doctor, or 1-888-426-4435 immediately for treatment advice.

Have the product container or label with you when calling a poison control center or doctor or going for treatment. You may contact 1-888-426-4435 for emergency medical treatment information.

My vet has never prescribed anything other than Frontline or the cheaper version Interceptor for the DOGS (never use on rabbits)

maybe you could ask him :?

 

[Sweetie]

Frontline has been known to give rabbits problems, like nerve problems, heart problems, etc. That is why frontline must never be used on rabbits.

Mrs. PBJ: I hope that your rabbits are very healthy, because frontline has been known to cause death in rabbits. I understand that Advantage or revolution doesn't work on fleas where you are. I am just letting you know what I have heard about frontline.