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We were cleaning Madison, Our 3 to 4 yo shelter bunny, sometimes she get clusters of poop. She is a little heavy but she likes to make nests with the hay and sit in her poop and pee after she goes.

Anyway, while cleaning we noticed her bum was extremely red and irritated.. She is going pee and poo but.. just very strange..

also her behind .. where her poop comes out seemed extremely irritated and well it just seemed wrong.

Any ideas?
 
is she drinking only water/no juices,etc.??,.is she getting a good fiber diet(70%),ie orchard/timothy grass,.if the above is yes,.then i believe there is a urinary tract infection,.antibiotic-trimethoprim sulfate will be required to clear up the problem,2.5 ml twice daily for a 10# rabbit,..sincerely james waller
 
Hello,

Yes, she drinks only water and has access to unlimited amounts of Timothy Hay, Kale, Romaine and also some pellets. Every once in a while she will have a Craisin treat. I try to keep the diet very .. constant... Ugh what could have caused this? Can the bunnys have juice?

Can I buy the antibiotic on line? How is it administered?

Thanks
 
Is it irritated due to the poop being attached to her and making her sore? How long was it on her before you cleaned it off? How regularly do you have to clean her?

I'm not sure this is a UTI, obviuously it could be, but there could be many other reasons too, so try not to instantly panic or worry.
 
Can you just clarify and explain her diet to us a bit more. Does she have unlimited pellets?
 
I've come across something similar. I know of a bunny that was too fat to clean his bum and eat the cecotropes/cecal pellets (a type of poo that they are supposed to eat, as it contains vitamins and other good stuff). They would mush all over his bum, and form a pocket around his entire waste-generating region. This poo crust kept the urine and fecal pelets (not the poo that should be eaten) next to the skin, and irritated it greatly. He needed a bath daily to get this poo crust off and clean the skin. I was using Udderly Smooth, a type of cream people use for their hands but it's made for cow udders, to soothe the skin. Another good option is baby cornstarch to keep it dry.

I agree that we need to know more about her diet, as well as whether or not she eats her cecal pellets. They're smellier poo clumps that look kind of like grapes all stuck together, and are shiny and mushy. Fecal pellets are the little cocoa puff looking things (smaller or bigger depending on the bunny's size) and they are dry, not shiny, and should be hard. If she is too heavy to eat these, she needs to be on a diet.

If she eats them fine, but is just sitting in her litter, there are ways to help with that too. First, make sure the litter is good--paper-based or non-aromatic wood based. I like wood stove pellets the best. They're made of pine sawdust that is kiln dried to remove aromatic oils that can bother the bunny. They are good at absorbing odor and moisture. Other good choices are recycled paper pellets, like Yesterday's News, or paper pulp, like CareFresh. Not ok are wood shavings. Not only do they not absorb smell very well, the ones made from cedar and pine can irritate the rabbits' respiratory tracts and cause issues with the liver. Aspen or kiln dried pine shavings are ok, but they don't absorb smell or liquid as well as the pelleted beddings.

I also like to put grates over the litter so my guys don't sit in it. Some litterboxes come with metal grates, but if you don't have them, plastic canvas (from a craft store or Wal-Mart) is great. They can also get sore hocks (foot sores) from stepping in dirty litter.

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I am not sure if it was irritated from the poop.

To clarify madison is chunky but she does not get the poop stuck on her unless she is nesting. I call nesting.. when she poops and pees in hay and sits in it.
I didn't realize she had gathered up hay and stashed it in her covered house, (a little house i put in the cage) and had been nesting in there. There were also lots of cecal poop around.

That is when I checked and found she had some poop on her bum, but it seemed her .. not sure about the right words.. it seemed her naughty bits were .. raw and exposed unlike the last times I cleaned her. She is pooping and peeing and eating and grooming. I am going to check her tonight again.

I also removed all hay from the cage and attached it to a holder on the outside so she can eat it but not have the huge clumps to nest in.

Also 2 nights ago I cleaned everything super good and put little bits of hay and paper towels over the feline pine in the litter box. There is some cecal poop in the litter box where she is now going exclusively.

She also seems to sit with her bum in the air :(( I think I am going to go to the vet..
 
Here is a picture.. there is a little poop I will be cleaning off immediately.. It does look better than a couple days ago.

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She needs to see a vet ; I don't know what that is but it definitely is not normal. If it is near the rectal area could be a prolapse; I am unsure
 
Oh dear. Poor bunny. I completely agree, she needs a vet.
 
I called 3 and the soonest I could get was Saturday at 3pm. Since Madison is eating etc etc the Vet didn't consider it an emergency.

I am going to try giving her a full batch and lots of pamperings to make her feel better then apply some Calendula-gel which is what the vet recommended until Sat.

How do I put 1 bunny on a diet that lives in the same cage as another bunny?


EDIT

Does anybody live in South Florida who maybe could recommend a bunny specialist or that could maybe give an in person diagnosis until Saturday? Starting to get worried..
 
I would suggest feeding your buns separately. That way you can cut down on her pellets and keep the other one on a healthy amount for him/her.

That area will need to be kept super, super clean to avoid anything potentially getting worse.
 
how do I do that?
keep the area clean? I am going to wash here then apply the gel but I dont know how else to keep it clean all the time
 
Well Madison needed to get her bladder flushed and both buns need to lose weight.
It turned out the irritation was pea scald caused by the build up of something in her bladder..bladder sludge syndrome. I took both buns to the wildlife care center where we adopted them.. and the volunteer vet was nice enough to see them there. I liked this vet. Although not important in the long run the price for everything seemed extremely reasonable 2 bunny check ups, nail clippings, and operation for $165 WOW when she said bladder operation anesthesia.. I immediately thought OMG this is serious. But she made it seem like no big deal

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Iwould guess that these vets informed you that if these rabbits do, indeed, have bladder sludge that they will need an increase in fluids in order to better attemptto to pass the sludge.
bladder sludge can be genetic but also can be created by an over abundance of calcium in the diet.
We have had other forum members who have treated their rabbits for this condition.

I'm sure that you will get imput from them
your rabbit needs a high fiber hay and grass hay diet (good quality with no alfalfa)
timothy pellet low in calcium and protein and low calcium veggies
here are some links that may help you

http://www.rabbitsonline.net/view_topic.php?id=12052&forum_id=10
http://www.rabbitsonline.net/view_topic.php?id=12058&forum_id=17

http://www.rabbitsonline.net/view_topic.php?id=12046&forum_id=17


 
Poor bunny!

Her pee had looked chalky white?

I'm assuming the vet gave her fluids and antibiotics and instructions to keep her well hydrated with a low calcium diet?

I'm sure she's very relieved with treatment.

And yes, great price for all that.



sas :goodluck
 
The buns get unlimited Timothy Hay and Timothy Pellets..The greens would mainly consist of KALE and Romaine ..

I am not sure if the vet gave her something to hydrate or antibiotics. I am supposed to continue to apply the calendula-gel daily.


The vet said no pellets or cut down ...

I am not sure how I can force the buns to eat more Timothy Hay.. And they always have cold bottled water in their water bottle.. How do I force them to drink more water and eat more hay?
 

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