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Bunnies-hollow

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Hi! I'm a relatively new breeder, and a while ago I got what I though was a Holland lop doe, now I'm not too sure. When I first bred her, around 6 months, she was bigger than my buck, but I know does are generally bigger than bucks. But now I'm trying to breed her again, and she is quite a bit bigger, my buck is having a hard time breeding with her. I was told she was a purebred Holland lop, but next to my buck who is pedigreed, so I know he is a purebred, I'm not so sure. What do you guys think?
My doe (Cinder) is the VM black and my buck (Sebastian) is the black tort

 

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She could be either one. A pet quality holland, a pet quality mini, or a lop cross. I'd be surprised if she was purebred holland, but if she is then she must not bred very well into the holland standard, and probably is a few generations removed from any show breeder. What are you breeding for? If you are breeding for show I'd advise getting a different doe, one that has more of Holland lop traits and isn't vienna marked (vienna marked rabbits are not showable and it is impossible to breed that gene out of a line so show breeders don't like to buy rabbits that are descended from vienna marks)
 

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She could be either one. A pet quality holland, a pet quality mini, or a lop cross. I'd be surprised if she was purebred holland, but if she is then she must not bred very well into the holland standard, and probably is a few generations removed from any show breeder. What are you breeding for? If you are breeding for show I'd advise getting a different doe, one that has more of Holland lop traits and isn't vienna marked (vienna marked rabbits are not showable and it is impossible to breed that gene out of a line so show breeders don't like to buy rabbits that are descended from vienna marks)
Thank you, I'm a hobby breeder, so im not too concerned about show quality (color wise at least), I actually really like the Vienna markings, so I probably wont be one. I'm glad to know she could be either one, and that I wasn't necessarily lied to. (That's happened before which ended up costing me a lot of money, for a doe that couldn't breed and had to be put down do to seizures) thank you very much.
 

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Hey, do you know how much she weighs, that could play a key factor in figuring out if she's a mini or holland?
 

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No I don't, and unfortunately I can not weigh her. A night ago the latch on my girls hutch broke and my girls got out, I haven't seen her since. She was a hefty girl though, definitely heavier than my buck.
 

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I'm am so sorry to hear that, who knows, maybe she will turn up out of the blue. Just for an understanding, Holland Lops weigh between 4-6lbs and mini lops usually weigh between 6.5-8lbs.
 

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The correct weight for a Mini Lop is 4.5-6.5 lbs... usually on the larger side of that scale with some large females at around 7 lbs, but not 6.5-8. (Hollands are supposed to be <4 lbs but often are heavier if they don't have the dwarf gene)
 

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Sable Steel, oh sorry, I meant to say 6.5 lbs minimum, but mini lop mixes can be between 6.5-8lbs. Sorry, I should really re-read my replies! And Hollands are supposed to be <4lbs but there are pet quality purebreds that weigh more (which is why I put 4-6lbs). Thank you for correcting my mistake!
 

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The correct weight for a Mini Lop is 4.5-6.5 lbs... usually on the larger side of that scale with some large females at around 7 lbs, but not 6.5-8. (Hollands are supposed to be <4 lbs but often are heavier if they don't have the dwarf gene)
That is correct in Hollands. True dwarves are not more than 4 pds; false dwarves are about a pound larger but still Hollands. Just cant show a false dwarf except as a pet.
 

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