Beau's Dental Appt yesterday

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Beau isa 6 yr old holland lop with severe malocclusion and periodontal disease. He has had multiple dental issues over the years and has multiple teeth extractions many times due to infection and decay. Since the dentist is so far from me it is anall day trip to take him , and have the work done. We were last there at the end of January but since his incisors seemto be overgrowing so quickly I took him in this spring to get his usual check, mouth realignment, filing ,and an any other procedures needed. Last Sat. (after the appt was already schedueled. ) Beau had a lower incisor that cracked at the base and fell out . he was drooling some after that and eating less.

Beau's diet is completely soft. he does not have enough opposing teeth to grind at all. he lives on critical care and Oxow BBt\T which he eats himself out of a bowl. healso can eat thing like pumpkin and small pieces of banana.I have pulverized veggies but he won't touch them .

I am posting ;; this sort of as educational info .

Since Beau has no grinding action his teeth grow at an alarming rate. Since the dentist is so far awayI have clipped his incisors and abnormal peg teeth myself because they actually grow into his gum causing pain.

I know the effects of clipping teeth. When an instrument is placed around the teeth and pressure exerted the force can either fracture a tooth and /or injure the root causing it to die. I had to take my chances so have done it myself out of necessity.
yesterday Beau had several fractured peg teeth which were filed down ; the tooth that fell out was most likely fractured and split. Beau's roots are OK in front.

In the back Beau had several teeth that were so loose they were 'flapping"; they were easily extracted. I had no idea that this was happening.
he needed to be syringe fed yesterday but it looks like he ate during the night ; he is a little fighter as he lost this love Babette a year ago and now goes through all this alone.

I just want to point out the extent of problems that can go on with a rabbit in places that we cannot see. I am sure that Beau was bothered by the loose teeth deep inside his mouth .

In order to get a really good look at the mouth the rabbit has to be anesthesized .

If there is any problems with salivating, wet chins , strange mouth motions. tear ducts , runny eyes and even runny noses in addition to picking up food and dropping it or "looking like he wants to eat but doesn't " please have your rabbit's mouth checked.

We all are extremely quick to action when we can see a problem but when teeth are involved it is difficult because we cannot see what is causing the pain for the bun.

if only Beau could talk he would have a lot to say .... and one of the things he would say is " Maureen shouldn't have clipped my teeth but she means well :)"
 
Awww... poor Beau Boy...
I was thinking about you guys yesterday:pray:... Glad to hear he came out of the anaesthetic well.

You're a wonderful bunny mom; you try so hard to make his little mouth comfy. I can't imagine anyone who could give better care to Beau than you.

He's becoming a gummy bunny:biggrin2:! I hope eating will be more pleasurable now... I can only remember how much I hated eating with loose teeth when I was a bit younger.

Hugs to you and Beau; best wishes for a speedy recovery :hug:
 
Yeh ...Beau is a "yummy gummy bunny" because he is so cute and has so few teeth..

The trip was terrible ; it rained the entire day
but at least it is over with for a few months.........
 
Out of curiosity, have you thought about just extracting everything? It would be painful as all heck, but it would get rid of your problems. I knew a bun that had no teeth whatsoever and lived to be a happy nine years old.
 
Wow! Poor guy and poor you! I hope he heals from this quickly. It must be so terrifying to have to take care of his teeth problems on your own. I have been worrying about Muffin as she did not come bounding over for veggies last night, so we went through a course of simethicone, pumpkin, other veggies, separating her from Tony to watch for poops (which she did do once she got over not being with her man), etc etc. I felt in her mouth on her teeth as well, and they may be too sharp. We'll see how she does today, since she devoured the pumpkin and at least picked at the veggies I know it's not tummy issues, but it could be teeth.
 
Ivory wrote:
Out of curiosity, have you thought about just extracting everything? It would be painful as all heck, but it would get rid of your problems. I knew a bun that had no teeth whatsoever and lived to be a happy nine years old.

he had 6 teeth extracted by another vet and it was too hard on him... I wouldn't put him through all that.

This dentist thinks that it is good that the molars are coming out (getting loose) but he doesn't want to pull the mouth on this bun.
 
tonyshuman wrote:
Wow! Poor guy and poor you! I hope he heals from this quickly. It must be so terrifying to have to take care of his teeth problems on your own. I have been worrying about Muffin as she did not come bounding over for veggies last night, so we went through a course of simethicone, pumpkin, other veggies, separating her from Tony to watch for poops (which she did do once she got over not being with her man), etc etc. I felt in her mouth on her teeth as well, and they may be too sharp. We'll see how she does today, since she devoured the pumpkin and at least picked at the veggies I know it's not tummy issues, but it could be teeth.

Muffin is probably OK; I never had any teeth issues with any of my others but Beau is a holland lop and he was not bred well (pet shop)

If Muffin does need teeth work done Dr Gengler is at his clinic once a week in (Wed)Verona and it cost less to see himthere than to see him at the University. It still is expensive but less so.

He is so nice and knowledgeble ....

Taking care of these rabbit on my own here in La X has pretty much made a wreck out of me but has also created a situation where I try to learn as much as I can on my own.

I will be interested in what TK thinks of the vet clinic in Eau Claire ; I wouldn't have Beau's teeth done anywhere else but with Dr. Gengler but maybe there is a better rabbit vet in Eau Claire.
TK adopted Kali from my shelter.
 
Muffin is also a mixed Holland of dubious parentage. She has an ear tat, but was owned by a backyard breeder and has a lot of ear control so her background is totally a mystery. The last time her teeth were looked at from the inside they were a bit worried about her, but she hadn't been eating hay for long so they wanted to see if that would wear them down. At her latest annual the vet didn't look inside the mouth at the molars.

Thanks for the tip about Dr. Gengler. If she keeps this up we'll be going in to our regular vet, who seems really good at least for a "simple" molar filing. They at least have a huge pic of rabbit dental anatomy on the wall.

It probably is better that these teeth come out on their own, if they're going to come out. That way there's a lot less tissue damage as the body starts to seal itself off gently from the lost tooth rather than rapidly after a surgery. I know so little about WI except between here and Milwaukee, or here and Beloit, so I have no idea. I know the vet school is good and I'd trust any relatively recent grad of there as a general vet, but as a specialist it may be different.
 

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