English Spots?

[wendymac]

I'm currently bidding on this little buck. I think he's adorable! I've wanted ONE bunny of the arched/running breed, and I think I found him. And my daughter wants to use him for hopping, too. From the VERY little I know about ES, his markings are a bit sparse and the white goes up his ears. And he doesn't look like he has much of an arch, but could that be because of the angle of the picture??

He's only at $25, but if he'll get kicked off the show table first then I won't go any higher. What do you guys think??

 

[OakRidgeRabbits]

From this picture, he doesn't appear to be show quality to me. I don't know a lot about ES, but he appears to have some stray spots, as well as an incomplete eye circle and ear coloring.

Here is a website with more about the breed standard: https://sites.google.com/site/watchmerunspots/englis-spots/judging

PaSRBA would be a good place to look around at what's for sale. Always best to buy marked breeds in person.

 

[DharmaBuns]

It's very hard to tell with these guys, especially if you don't have a picture of both sides. One side might be beautiful and the other side is a DQ. Plus, you really want to see the running breeds "in action" before buying. There are certain breeders with Tans that I have bought rabbits after only seeing pictures but I trusted them completely. It's easy to hide things in pictures.

Running breeds are the best! I've been tempted to add ES for awhile now....

 

[wendymac]

Well, in the SoP the "ideal" markings around the eye look like his. And it shows an elbow spot on there, too. The only thing I think that's going to be a problem is that he has a late start to his spine markings. But she said his sire looked like that, and as he grew so did the spine marking? She posted a video...and he's FAST! Even if we don't show him, he'll be fun to mess around with. And Kitty's already looking for a harness for him. LOL

 

[wendymac]

I'll see if I can get his video to post. With him zipping around, it's hard to see...but he's cute! lol

 

[OakRidgeRabbits]

"The circles should be as round as possible and about the size of a Quarter with an even band of color all the way around. A feather attached to the top of the circles are permissible."

I took this to mean that an even band is ideal. Like I said, I don't know a lot about this breed, his markings just seemed a little messy to me. But especially for a hopping rabbit, nothing like that matters anyway! Or I could just be completely wrong.

 

[wendymac]

Not sure if this will work or not, but I'm going to try.

And it states in the SoP: "Perfection is to get the eye circles as round as possible, but the feather over the eye circle should not be considered a fault." If his video is anything to go by, he should have plenty of gumption for hopping. haha

https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=203724906438158

 

[wendymac]

And less side spots are preferred over too many. I know for $25 he's not going to be the next BIS bunny, for sure. LOL And the only reason I even put a bid on him was the "OMG! He's adorable!" emotion that hit me when I saw his picture. I MUST stop buying bunnies! LOL

 

[DharmaBuns]

I can't sat for certain for Spots, but I know with Tans that it is not a DQ for incomplete eye circles, only a fault. It's not really looked at TOO awful hard by many judges, but it's something that I know a lot of people in the breed are working toward correcting.

 

[BinkyBunny]

From the posed ES I see, he seems like probably I wouldn't use him as a foundation or anything. Is Nestle going to get jealous???

 

[wendymac]

Oh, he'll never see a wife...just getting him for fun. I know next to nothing about them, except for what I've read in the SoP. But did I mention how stinking adorable he looks? LOL I'm going to go from being a rabbit breeder to being a rabbit breed collector! I'd love to have 1 of everything. lol

 

[wendymac]

Nestle isn't going to know about him. It's going to be a secret! LOL And Nestle at least gets wives...not the case with poor Charlestown. haha

 

[wendymac]

After watching his video for the hundredth time, it looks like his other side has way more spots, making him unbalanced. I won't bid higher than $25, because there aren't a lot of shows that offer hopping around here. But he's definitely cute!

 

[BinkyBunny]

After watching his video for the hundredth time, it looks like his other side has way more spots, making him unbalanced. I won't bid higher than $25, because there aren't a lot of shows that offer hopping around here. But he's definitely cute!

Could you explain hopping? I don't really know anything about it! :dancingorig:

 

[DharmaBuns]

After watching his video for the hundredth time, it looks like his other side has way more spots, making him unbalanced. I won't bid higher than $25, because there aren't a lot of shows that offer hopping around here. But he's definitely cute!

*cough* get a Tan *cough* I'd give you a free Tan if you wanted it for hopping. I live in MI but will be down near Kentucky on April where there will be a bunch of National breed shows.

However, I do very much see the appeal of English Spots and I know what you mean about wanting one of every breed! Then you'd need one for every VARIETY of that breed (of which ES has a few) and then every class...it boggles my mind!

 

[Korr_and_Sophie]

Could you explain hopping? I don't really know anything about it! :dancingorig:

Rabbit Hopping is like horse show jumping. There is also rabbit agility which is like dog agility. Basically, rabbits are trained to go over jumps and other obstacles and run a course. There is scoring based on how fast the rabbit goes and if they knock over any poles.

 

[wendymac]

And if he can jump at the speed he can run, we'll be in business. LMAO I'd love a tan!! When you come to ARBA Convention this year you can bring me one!

 

[woahlookitsme]

I dont think i would show him but hopping he might be okay. Spots can differ in temperment. Some of them are very hyper and some move like turtles. The video isnt available but it probably isnt set to public viewing. If you change that it should work. Id love to see him run

 

[wendymac]

I can't change it. The owner posted it on their facebook, but she put a link on mine. Maybe she set it to public? I'll try posting that link and see. And he's not running on a table...he's literally zipping around in a room. LOL She said he's very friendly and outgoing, so we'll see. Well, provided nobody else bids on him, because I won't go any higher. I really don't "need" another pet, even if he someday does hopping a few times a year.

 

[majorv]

Yea, I'd like to see the video, too. If he's unbalanced in his markings then he wouldn't show well. He'd certainly be good for hopping though! We have a friend who used to show Spots. Before the show, she'd be running hers on one judging table and we'd be running our Tans on the other one.