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Alright, I FINALLY have a booking.

After the visit I was a little iffy on the clinic and have been... Admittedly a little hesitant at booking an appointment so we contacted our vet at Avian and Exotic. Although she hasn't done it before, she has been doing a ton of research on it since we brought Flynn in and she is confident in doing the surgery as it is similar to some of the ones she's done before.

So, FINALLY, we're going in on February 17 to have the FHO done. It's going to be approximatly somewhere between $950 - $1100 but I think we're making the right choice on the vet here, she is the one who did Flynn's spay and has been advising us all along, I think she just didn't want to commit until she was confident she was capable of doing it.

I really hope we're making the right choice here, I hope everything will turn out okay and we'll get through the healing process without any problems...

Made myself feel a little sick earlier, I was adding it up and with this surgery, this will be around $2000 on Flynn in the last 3 or so months.
 
Wishing Flynn the best.

Sometimes they do cost some money, but they are truly worth it in my eyes.

Please keep us posted after the operation. Would love to hear how Flynn does. And I'm sure he will do well. He's got a Mom who made sure things were right. Good Job. Never stupid questions when it comes to our bunnies health.

K :)
 
Last night I was snuggling with Becky and then Cindi. Joshua commented how much money we have spent in the past year between the two girls. I pretended to have to go to the bathroom and handed Cindi over to him. She of course covers him in kisses because she loves being held. I came back and he had melted. Joshua decided they really were worth it. Hehehehehee Go Cindi! :)

Yes it is a lot of money, but you can't put a price on love. :hug:
 
I agree they are worth it. Between Harley and Benjamin in the last 3 months it has cost us about $1200 and we are looking at another $1000 for Harley's surgery. In Benajmin's case it was heartbreaking because we lost him, but if you can extend their lives it is worth every penny. ( well hundreds of dollars. ) lol Let me know how you make out with this new vet, the one we are dealing with in Winfield is very iffy about doing anything until he is alot bigger. Got hold of your original choice Avenida and they suggested that I had him in too large a space to allow the ligaments to heal. So now he is in a way smaller space of which he looks out of with sheer disgust. Let us know how he does, am sure it will be a roaring success. May be bringing Harley that direction to get his leg done.
 
Hopefully all goes well. The recovery from the FHO will be the hardest... mainly on you. Especially trying to keep a bunny with buckets of energy calm and confined for over a month! Nevermind 2-3+ months until its as good as new.... then they look at you like... let me go play? ... and you cant, but you really want to...

Lots of pictures please!
 
There's no doubt in my mind that she's worth it, she's such a sweetie and even with all that's going on, she's still so affectionate and happy-go-lucky. Such a little trooper.

I guess the Avian and Exotic vet has offered to do this in the past but she's been turned down everytime since no one has wanted "to go that far with expenses on a rabbit". Honestly, when I tell people what I'm having done and how much it costs, I get looked at like I'm bloody insane. I think non-rabbit people just don't get it.

Alma, I'll be sure to keep you especially posted and when the time comes for Harley to go in, I'll hopefully have some info for you to make things easier. I have to admit, not having seen many other stories and such on rabbits in particular makes me nervous, so we'll have Flynn on here as a wonderful success story that will help other people in the same situation!

Watermelons, I am not looking forward to the begging face, Flynn has perfected it, especially since she's had to be contained in a smaller space so many times in a row and she seems to have no concern with hurting herself again, I don't know how many times I've had to make her stop trying to run around and popcorn. After the surgery I'll be even more of a basketcase, I'm sure.
 
Flynn's surgery is schedules for February 17, 2012.
The surgery will run between $950 and $1100.

For anyone who might like to help chip in to help Amanda cover the costs for her surgery, I've set up a chip-in account for her.

I've been telling Amanda to do this, but she's too proud to ask for help.

Any help is appreciated.

http://savepeace.chipin.com/flynns-femural-head-removal-surgery
 
Hey glad to hear Flynn is doing well that's good..just wanted to add my little story about my Daisy who dislocated her leg took her to the vet who tried to pop it back in but it wouldn't stay in so the next thing to try was removing her hip joint i was quite panicked at first to put her through such an operation but she pulled through and how amazing she was as a few weeks after the op she was back to her self hopping around..just amazing..Daisy was such a beautiful bunny...she is no longer with me though..but never forget her.
So yeah it's good to hear Flynn is doing well..
 
I am going through similar except my 2 year old dwarf holland lop doesn't have a dislocated hip...he injured himself after launching out of the bathtub harder than he's ever done. He's sustained "jumping" injury before [going in & out of his cage, he misjudged the entrance & got hung up on the wires of the cage]...he was gimping a bit, he was wobbling around, he'd turn on his bum...something wasn't right. I let it go for 24 hours thinking he'd sustained a pulled groin or something in the leg [strained ligament] but after rising the 2nd day it was nauseating seeing him flop around & struggle to get his back end positioned. I feared the worst [2 years prior I had to euthanize an ELDER bun (8 years old) who had a seizure & sustained a hairline spinal fracture leaving him paraplegic]. I was devastated & tried to immediately arranged the vet for the next day; sadly they were booked. I couldn't get him seen til the 3rd day [can't afford emergency after hours care; I live in poverty & had no money to have him seen no matter what the cause]...I didn't like the clinical approach. It seemed treatment & care would be given based on what I could afford. Without any knowledge or information on "rabbit health" & other things despite having raised a rabbit from 3 months-8 years...& having other domestic rabbits over the years, none ever needed veterinary intervention & I managed on my own wits.

Well, it turned out after "basic exam" [though NOT a basic price...$235.00 total which included Office visit, exam, 1 plate/xray, & x ray interpretation $78.00; $42.00 GST]...no direction, care or handling advice was given other than a basic evaluation that he has a left hip deformity (not a proper ball & socket) that he's fractured the femoral head. Vet seemed very reluctant to mention "femoral head excision surgery"; this was at the end after I gave extensive information & was SEARCHING for answers, saying to her that I understand the nature of his condition but I still was not clear WHAT TO DO about it. She didn't even mention or hint at euthanasia...but all things led to "leave him alone, we'll give pain meds, he will determine what he needs & time will tell if he can use the leg". This angered me. Very limited options where I live...only 2 vets & the one I went to is the better of the 2; the other vet doesn't even DO rabbits, refers out of town at considerable distance. I have no transportation, no resources or supports to get my rabbit anywhere else & as it was I had to take my grocery money plus vacation savings & use my mom's credit card to pay the vet bill. I was repetitively told by the vet who saw him & gave out 5 doses of Metacam [no more pain meds after that because she said too high risk of GI tract disturbance or intestinal bleed] that "the hip will never be good...he will always have pain, but bunnies they're good...they learn to manage the pain & adapt". I still found this COLD comfort...lastly at my prompting she did say that realistically he needs a hip replacement & that would require referral to a specialist in Guelph & I'd be looking at thousands of dollars. I could have vomitted. I felt sick to my stomach, I was already in grave emotional/mental distress over this...

I'd been hand feeding him & up almost round the clock helping him to toilet [though he was quite independent despite being in shock, doing alot of laying around]. Within 3-4 days he was sitting & moving about, eating, drinking...lots of drinking & peeing. Vet confirmed this is probably from pain. He really wanted to move about, I feared having him 'out' of his pen but had to give the daily 5:30 dose of pain medication [til ran out]. By the 5th day he'd already been traipsing about though wobbly & evident that he was tenderly tiptoeing on that foot etc. By the end of the first week he is back to being a monkey...his personality in full force, he was finally SLEEPING [never slept for those first 6 days despite pain meds, no naps...only evidence of pain]. He was looking for treats & poking about, no longer tolerating my "hand feeding" etc., he'd grab things away & wanted to do things himself [always typical of his personality]. He was even wanting to hop in & out of his cage but I'm still NOT letting him, he was more than capable of going in & out of his litter box by himself...so I then I could finally go out for short bits to do errands, laundry or groceries [for 5 full days I never left his side...on the 6th day I left him to his own device for 2 hours to do washing]. By the 8th day he was so agile & limber, easily going in & out of his litter box, absolutely no drooping of the foot. He'd already been pulling the leg up-hunched to sit, placing weight...using the leg. He was extending it to clean the foot...even lifting it to scratch his ear. I knew he was BETTER than good. I broke down & grieved with RELIEF [I'd been HOLDING MY breath for a week] & because I was in AWE of this beautiful little living thing. I bawled on his head, "Bizz, you're my HERO bunny!" My heart SWELLED with such admiration & LOVE for this little bunny who I'm positive was the RUNT of the litter. I took him home 2 years ago cause I felt that he CHOSE me! When I first held him he was so curious, the spark in his eyes & I knew he had personality like I'd never seen before...he BOPPED me in the mouth as if to say "WHAT ON EARTH ARE YOU!" It was LOVE at first "BONK". LOL!!!

This also puts into perspective when he was a "kit" why he "walked his feet" & did this adorable little shuffle, as opposed to how bunnies naturally hop...his cute little scuttle butt he'd do...now I cringe cause that meant he was in pain from the hip as it didn't move how it should so he could walk better. Now it's almost as if he's better for this devastating injury. He keeps his back feet parallel whereas before he always had them "splayed" out kind of like "penguin" footed. I think he defies veterinary science...all the veterinary medicine I could find with american animal hospitals concede permanent disability & LAMENESS in the leg & a permanent condition whereby he could be walking & spontaneous collapse. There's NONE of this. He is so STRONG on that leg, even rearing up on his hind feet to poke the underside of things & sniff about...he's even STOOD UP on his hind legs to PESTER for treats or just be NOSY cause I have something & he's going NUTS with curiosity.

Lastly...it was maddening & exasperating that NO ONE within 80 km's seemed to touch a rabbit, know much about rabbits & would do nothing for my bun except to say "keep him at home, lots of rest...don't let him outside & see how he fares." Other than that, they said nothing could be done for him unless I could pay for the femoral head surgery & even that, there's no guarantee he'd be any better & even more "unknowns"...whether he'd survive the stress of the surgery. I began to conclude the lesser of "2 evils" [that of DOING NOTHING or opting for surgery & having to rob a bank to pay for it (JUST KIDDING!!!!)] is that opening up the leg could expose the bone to infection & this results in a DEGENERATING bone infection that means amputation. As it is...other vets concluded he's doing excellent on his own, let him live what quality of life he has [which is NOT pain free though he doesn't seem affected]...& he might have a "shorter" life because of the hip dysplasia as he could be so arthritic by age 6/7 & in such a debilitated state it would be MORE humane to peacefully terminate his torment.

In some ways I'm still exasperated...but relieved that I got him as a pet & not someone else who might throw him out in the wild or kill him. I can't imagine if someone took him home as a pet for their child...they'd never put up with this & the activity & excitement [though he got the name BIZZ for BIZZY...he is/was so busy, curious, in everything & up INTO EVERYONE's BIZZ-NESS...haha] that I was trying to keep him stimulated all the time...we went for frequent SCOOTS in the park. If I'd only KNOWN he was so BITEY when I first got him [took endless hours of "NO" & gently tapping his head to reinforce the behaviour would NOT be tolerated. He didn't just nip to test or warn, he would attack & bite. He bit so much I was uncertain he could be kept as a pet. But I knew that lots of handling, time, reinforcement would get the message through. I trained a previous rabbit to stay out of the bedroom just by commanding "NO" & shooing him that eventually as soon as he peered in the door, I hollered 'NO' & he'd retreat...he'd retreat of his own accord.

So it's been 3 weeks since the femoral head fractured. I'm EEKEd out though, cause I'm like "if the head broke away" where is it? It's got to still be inside him...or a fragment of bone. Another vet said something about a little bridge that connected the femur to the hip broke away so there's nothing in there...but he didn't even have the x-ray so not sure where he got this supposition. The vet who saw Bizz didn't say anything about complications from remaining bone...He's a petite bun...3.8 lbs., & he has the MOST delicate bones I've ever felt for a rabbit. Vet surmised he was probably malnourished inside the mom...consequently the hip deformity, he didn't get enough nutrition to fully develop before being born. He's such a beautiful lop...a broken cream & fawn...royal blue eyes. It's been 3 weeks since the fracture...he's been running about the apartment [he always wants out, runs from me if he thinks I'm going to put him in the cage]...he's back to playing, he thoroughly grooms...he's very strong on the leg [he lets me feel around & massage his hip...yet other times he spontaneously NIPS without provocation or warning]. The defensiveness around his rear end has returned after a year of being 'broken' of the habit [gentle as a ball of fluff]. He's also determined...very much an attitude of "I'll do it my way, by myself, & you can't make me cause I won't let you". haha

It's been 3 weeks & 1 day. Using the leg helps the recovery...wondering if it's safe to take him out on the leash & see how he manages in the grass. If he gets too active I can always pick him up & bring him back in. I'm thinking it would advance the density of the bone if he now has some strengthening exercise through having his controlled romps in the yard. Lastly...the bunny with the hip dislocation & $2000 for femoral head excision...that's what I was quoted here at home. I got the same approach, not anyone in the area does it yet the local vet does surgeries on dogs & cats. Sometimes I feel like they discriminate against rabbits. I was getting so SICK & TIRED of hearing "rabbits are knee jerk animals...not much can be done for them. They're so hard to diagnose or treat". I wanted to scream "then why are you a VET". There's ones who do exotics & small animals & rabbits are COMMON domestic & back yard pets [in hutches] all over the region I live in, so SOMEONE MUST be providing veterinary care. I was in such distress, my rabbit was severely hurt & it was as painful to me that no one, even though I was a paying client on his behalf, seemed to want to do ANYTHING for him but they sure as ANYTHING were WILLING TO TAKE LOTS of money TO GIVE very little care. I began to see it's very much FOR PROFIT....I figured that's the "clinical" approach in VET CLINIC as opposed to if I could have accessed an animal hospital which MIGHT be inclined to COMPASSIONATE care.
 
It's been 3 weeks & 1 day. Using the leg helps the recovery...wondering if it's safe to take him out on the leash & see how he manages in the grass. If he gets too active I can always pick him up & bring him back in. I'm thinking it would advance the density of the bone if he now has some strengthening exercise through having his controlled romps in the yard. Lastly...the bunny with the hip dislocation & $2000 for femoral head excision...that's what I was quoted here at home. I got the same approach, not anyone in the area does it yet the local vet does surgeries on dogs & cats. Sometimes I feel like they discriminate against rabbits. I was getting so SICK & TIRED of hearing "rabbits are knee jerk animals...not much can be done for them. They're so hard to diagnose or treat". I wanted to scream "then why are you a VET". There's ones who do exotics & small animals & rabbits are COMMON domestic & back yard pets [in hutches] all over the region I live in, so SOMEONE MUST be providing veterinary care. I was in such distress, my rabbit was severely hurt & it was as painful to me that no one, even though I was a paying client on his behalf, seemed to want to do ANYTHING for him but they sure as ANYTHING were WILLING TO TAKE LOTS of money TO GIVE very little care. I began to see it's very much FOR PROFIT....I figured that's the "clinical" approach in VET CLINIC as opposed to if I could have accessed an animal hospital which MIGHT be inclined to COMPASSIONATE care.

That is quite a story and I am very glad that your bun is doing well! It's a very stressful thing to go through!

As far as the cost... The reason it was so much was because it's something our vet had never done (People have been given the option before but had not done it due to cost) and it is a very complicated, invasive surgery. Flynn was under anesthetic for 2 hours and our dear vet got more then a few grey hairs from the whole ordeal.

I truly believe that our vet is in it for the good of the animal. Heck, just today she volunteered at our Bunanza event, did vet checks by donation and did a talk, all just because she loves bunnies.

Flynn's care was very expensive and time consuming, but I would do it all over again if need be. Just is so much happier and has a jolly time, I'm glad I did it. I don't feel I was ripped off and she received the best care possible from a wonderful vet staff.

I do agree, however, that knowledge on rabbits from many vets is severely lacking.
 

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