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  1. Jul 15, 2019 #1

    Jong

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    Hello I'm a new owner of 9 week old holland lop had her about a week and read lot about having pet rabbit for my 4 year old daughter
    I got the rabbit from a co worker that had bunnies.
    Told me will be great for my daughter
    So we decided to get her and got this cage
    https://www.amazon.com/JYYG-Playpen-Portable-Animals-Rabbits/dp/B07F3YZG5P
    Few days after(this morning) her head got stuck on one of the cage hole almost killed herself and freed her head. And I notice one of her eye is popped out and now her hair is covering her eye can anyone help what I should do any help will be great thank you
     

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    John Wick

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    I highly recommend you see a rabbit-experienced vet (commonly known as exotic vets; dog/cat vets are not appropriate for rabbits). This doesn't seem like something you can resolve on your own unfortunately. Someone with intimate knowledge with rabbit medicine, anatomy, and treatment is needed.

    It would be good to have her checked at the vet regardless, if you hadn't already. Having a baseline understanding of a new rabbit's health is very important, and building that baseline at a vet who you'll see approx. once a year for check-ups (recommended minimum) is needed as well.
     
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    Thank you very much would my bunny's eye will ever get back to normal?
     
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    I'd get your bunny to the vets straight away, the sooner you act the better the outcome for her. I hope she feels better soon
     
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    Our ideas on whether it would get better and normal wouldn't mean much at all unfortunately. The same symptom can have so many causes, and each cause has a different potential outcome. This symptom (eye bulge) is the same -- lots of reasons why, and the reason will change what the outcome is. This is best discussed with your vet, while examining your rabbit.
     
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    Thank you very much for all your help
    I called a local rabbit experienced vet told me exotic doctor is not in today so transfer me to different Vet and was on hold for over 20 minutes and left a message to call me back I haven't hear back from them yet.
    I live in northern New Jersey anyone know any good Vet in my area
    thank you
     
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    https://www.rabbitsonline.net/threads/nj-rabbit-savvy-vets.10094/#post-230947
    You can search this thread for vets in your area. Some of the information might be outdated, my own vet had changed clinics since he was posted here, but you can get the name of the vet and Google him or her to find out if they're in a different location than what this old thread says. Im sorry, I'm not sure how else to help you. Hopefully the experts will be along shortly but I wanted to try to give you at least some resources to try. I do hope your bun gets better!! Please do your best to get her to the vet ASAP.
     
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  9. Jul 16, 2019 #9

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    That cage is not a good idea for a baby holland. Or any Holland they have little smushed faces and they can get their faces stuck in a lot of stuff. either you should free range her in your house or you could get a chicken coop. I use chicken coops and they have small enough holes my hollands can't get through. I get my chicken coops from Mills Fleet farm. They definitely don't have the best ones and we had to fix ours up but they also stay outside. If you did buy one from a place like that it would work best inside and you should probably buy a lot of glue and glue it up while you can. I also live where weather is unpredictable so that might have an affect to it too. But I do highly recommend a chicken coop for a holland lop or any rabbit. I hope you got in contact with your vet!
     
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    Thank you everyone for the help is this sounds right to you guys and ladies being 1st rabbit owner just wanted to make sure I did the right thing
    I took her to the Vet ER last night and the doctor gave me 2 options
    1 having her eye removed cost will be little under $3200
    2 put her down will be ($190 for ER visit + $75 for the pain med) + $60-$90
    told me if we don't remove her eye will get infected and she will die even with the medications(antibiotics and pain meds)
    I feel so sorry for her but had to put her down can't afford $3200 surgery
    yes now I know this cage is the worst cage for any small pet learned that very painful way
    once again thank you for all your help
     
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    So sorry that it went that way. That's a really hard way to find out the cage wasn't safe. Sorry for your loss.
     
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    So sorry for your loss.
     
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    That's horrible I am so sorry for your loss. I hope you and your daughter and doing well. Best wishes
     
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    So sorry you had to experience this. I understand the monetary side of the decision as well.

    Don't beat yourself up over the cage choice either. Normally that type of cage is not only fine, but even recommended for rabbits - adult rabbits. It is the young rabbits that may have issue with it. I believe it was @Imbrium (if memory serves) who had a similar problem with her young rabbits and solved it by putting a smaller mesh across the bottom portion of the grids.

    But NIC grids are commonly used for rabbit cages. You can see them on just about any site about indoor rabbit housing. There are some grids (by some sellers) where there are fewer than 9 squares across the grid. Those are considered dangerous. But the normal, 9-square grids are fine (except for some of the very young babies).

    If you decide to try again with a pet rabbit, I would highly recommend you consider getting an already-fixed (adult) rabbit from a rabbit rescue. They are recommended, anyway, for a "first time" rabbit owner. You (and your daughter) can choose one with a specific personality (can't do that with a baby) and they are vet-checked, fixed (saves $$$), and personality assessed, and either already litter trained or ready to train (they train easiest once fixed).

    Check here for more on that.
     
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    Mackenzie that reply was totally uncalled for and incorrect. Blue Eyes has offered a great reply.

    Jong you did the best you could. Sorry to hear of the outcome.
     
  16. Jul 18, 2019 #16

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    What did I say? All I said was That's horrible and I'm sorry for your loss! And if you are talking about the chicken coop stuff how would you know? I have had my hollands get stuck in those wire cages and I was not trying to be mean. I am sorry Jong if I was being rude I honestly wasn't trying too. And technically no it was not "incorrect" those are my experiences on the topic and that was what I prefer and I was sharing it with others so they can try it out and see maybe they prefer it maybe they don't thats okay either way. I know chicken coops work best for my holland lops because they get their smushed little faces in anything and everything. You wouldn't understand unless you owned a holland lop and tried out so many different cage methods. I would say I spent a good $1,000 on cages to see what one works best and I don't want people to have to spend that much money on it so I am trying to share my experiences so they can try out what they think might work best. Thank you.
     
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    Thank you for all your supports and I know you're not here to say anything bad I understand Mackenzie so don't worry about it no harm done.
    So my wife and I decided to wait few more years till my daughter gets little older before we get any pet(s)
    thank you for all your help and I will just check this site time to time
    once again thank you very much everyone
     
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    lol ya my parents waited til I was in 4th grade for my own personal pet but we had family pets like dogs my whole life
     
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    I'm so sorry you and your daughter had such a tragic first experience with rabbits :(. Binky free, little lop!

    I didn't actually use that solution, I just kept them in their store-bought cage for like 3 more weeks after my little lionhead gave me a scare by getting her head stuck in a grid. I've definitely heard of people putting hardware cloth or chicken wire around the bottom to keep babies in when dealing with a litter, though. I've been using (and loving) NIC grid cages for seven years now and swear by them as one of the best indoor housing options (either with an attached run, free-roam time or being free-range and using the condo just as a home base)... but rabbits definitely need to be a certain size before they can safely use that style of cage :(. Rabbits grow significantly in size between 8 and 12 weeks old; I recommend 12 weeks as a minimum age for NIC grid cages.

    Rabbits are pretty fragile and high maintenance... totally worth it and not hard to care for them once you've done your research and had some practice, but at the same time not a great starter pet for kids so I think you're making the right decision to wait a few years. I got my first rabbit when I was 8 or 9 (mind you, I was quite mature and responsible for my age); by then a kid can understand proper handling (like always making sure the back feet are supported) and are more likely to handle something like a nip on the behind (yes, I've had a rabbit do this to me to say "enough brushing!" lol) or having a rabbit "dig" on them (which hurts a bit even though the rabbit means no harm by it) without getting upset or angry about it or resenting the rabbit for just being a rabbit.

    Still keep an eye out for potential innocent mistakes even with an older kid, though! I don't think my parents ever found out about me sharing fudgesicles with my rabbit when they weren't in the room, lol. Thankfully, I guess the chocolate and dairy products are diluted enough and I shared small enough amounts that no harm ever came to the rabbit. Looking back on it, I'm a bit surprised that a kid as smart as I was - who knew not to feed chocolate to our dog, etc. - didn't once stop to wonder if it was ok for the rabbit to have that. I never would've given straight chocolate, but I shared that fudgesicle on a regular basis and the rabbit LOVED it (as they do so many sweet/carb-loaded things that are bad for them).

    Anyway, if you ever decide to get another rabbit, definitely go with a rescue/shelter rabbit - you'll save at least $200-300 on spay/neuter surgery, you don't have to deal with the "teenage" hormones or the way babies are extra fragile and you can go straight to a NIC cage (btw, there are way better deals out there - whitmor brand is usually the cheapest on Amazon; 6 cubes = 23 grids... I was shocked to see how much they marked up the price on your listing just because it was marketed for pets, even though it's the same product. Also, skip the connectors that come with it and use zip-ties, way more secure/stable). Whenever you're finally ready, we'll still be here to offer advice, answer questions and ooh/ahh over cute pics you post! ;)
     

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