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peapoo_bunny

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We have been desperately trying to find our old horse named Czar. We let a friend take Czar and our other horse Hotshot to her riding school. Czar was then sold without me knowing, and Hotshot got very sick. We were able to get Hotshot back and he is doing fine now, but we cant find Czar anywhere.

He was injured while she had him. Another horse jumped on him and bit a hole through his neck, so he cannot be ridden anymore. She cant remember who she sold him to or even what town our county he went to. Ive posted all over the internet, hung flyers all over town, and talked to every horse person i know.. but we still dont have a clue where he could be.... what else can we do?

we miss Czar so much, and i know hotshot has to miss him..they grew up together from the time they were 2 or 3 until they were 14 or 15... It was a very dumb decision to let somebody else take them. We at least would like to know where he is and if hes ok.

Czar is a registered Arabian gelding. He is chestnut with a big white blaze that extends all the way to his lower lip and 1 white foot (back foot). He is registered as "Roed Czar". His sire is " Roed Superman". Czar would be about 21yrs old now.

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Aw, how sad.

Now, given that the USA is a huge place, have you tried contacting places like horse specialised vets? Or maybe riding schools?

I know that would take ages though, and is virtually impossible.

Good luck hunting him down.
 
Ive been told by one girl (who knew the woman that sold him) that he could possibly be in Morganton NC. We have put posters up at the vets around town, and ive contacted 1 riding school..they dont know where he is. Ive posted him on horse websites, and ive emailed horse rescue places in NC and TN. Ive emailed people in NC, TN, GA, FLA, and many other places. I think we're going to put an add in the iwanna paper. the new one just came out today so im not sure when the next one is.

our vet is the one who treated Czar at the womans house when he was sick. He cant tell us anything unless the woman gives him permission. She said she would give him permission to tell us, but she hasn't yet. He might know where Czar is if she would just give him permission.

what i dont get is how she could just get rid of him and not have a clue where he could be


 
Aw, I'm sorry that you are having to go through all this.

Maybe keep 'reminding' the woman to give him consent. Maybe even write a letter from her point of view and take it down to her so she can sign it, which would make things easier for her (but might be a bit cheeky).

Maybe she doesn't want to remember, or maybe she knows but doesn't want to say. I'm sorry to say, but what if he died, and it's easier for her to say that she sold him and forgot who to.

It's not a good situation to be in and I wish you the best of luck finding where he is.
 
Hi sorry to hear about your beloved horse. Can you not contact the police? It sounds really fishy to me, maybe they lady needs a little pressure put on her so you can get some answers.

Susan:apollo:
 
your right he could be dead by now we never know. especially since he is older, supposedly didnt like other horses, and cant be rode...

but we definately without a doubt know he was alive 3 months ago. the dumb woman let her grandaughter (who was the one taking care of him) try to ride him in a show after he healed.. the injury was still to painful for him and he started acting up during the show.. we know this because a friend of ours, who is training Soldier our other horse, was at the show and saw Czar. She said Czar was not acting good at all , and that she could tell he was in pain. not long after that the woman said she sold Czar.

the womans grandaughter is the one who rode and took care of Czar. the woman says her grandaughter might remember who Czar was sold to, but we havent been able to contact her yet. we've been going to sales almost every week now since we found out hes gone. We see the woman at almost every sale (which makes us think she sent czar through the salebarn). she hasnt brought her grandaughter yet, but we question her everytime we see her. she also lives 10 min away from us so we go to her house and question her to. We can tell that she has more information than shes telling us though.. we've talked to other horse people , and according to them she is not a person you want to sell your horse to.. they say that her grandaughter is rough on the horses ,hits them etc... and that they can take the best horse in the world and ruin it.
 
Did you actually sell Czar and Hotshot to this woman, lease them to her, or did you just say "you can borrow my horses to use at your riding school for so many months/years"? Because, if you didn't sell them to her, you could sue her. If they were your horses, she would be under legal obligation to tell you where they are, as far as I know. She can't just ignore you, since she would now owe you hundreds, possibly thousands of dollars, depending on how valuable Czar is. Not that he isn't valuable to you as a beloved pet, but she would owe you his value. I'd recommend reading up on your local laws about this sort of thing. Was there ever any sort of contract between you?

:hug2: What a terrible, awful thing to happen to you, and your poor horses. It was obviously a mistake to send them to that woman, but we shant dwell on that too much, since you obviously love your horses and would have had their best intrests at heart. I hope dearly that you find him, and I'll keep my eye out while I'm looking around horsey websites for him. Since I live in another country, it's unlikely that you will find him here, but I'll keep an eye out regardless. :) I hope he's alright.

Did Czar have a brand, or any sort of identifying markings at all?

Rachel.
 
no, i cant sue her or anything.. i didnt really sell them to her, but i gave them to her... so it would be wrong of me to try to sue her..i just thought she understood that if she wanted to get rid of them she would give them back.. i should have made it more clear.. it seems likewe are finding out that this woman just doesnt tell the truth alot of the time.. shes got to know where she sent him.. how could she not know? ..especially after they had been showing him for months and her grandaughter supposedly loved him to death (until he couldnt be rode anymore and was useless to them:X) i thought they would be better off with her because she would spend more time with them, but obviously that wasnt true

the only noticable identification on Czar is that big white blaze, it extends all the way to his lower lip.. he used to get sunburned if i didnt put sunscreen on his nose. He might have a mark from the injury, but im not sure because i havent seen him since he was injured..he was already gone when i found out about it.

thanks for keeping an eye out for him, i couldnt tell you how many hours ive spent looking online for him or driving from one place to another... today we were out about 2hours looking for him.. a woman told us we needed to check the deaf schools 30 minutes away from us. Since Czar couldnt be rode anymore he would be perfect for them. the deaf students spend alot of time with the horses.. we drove to two different schools and looked at the horses, but he wasnt at either one...one horse looked almost identical to him, but its white foot was in the front and not the back. there werent any workers anywhere so we're going to call them soon and see if they know anything about him. were also going to contact our local saddle club because the woman who last owned Czar used to be the head of the saddle club.. butsomething happened and now shes not anymore
 
Have you looked at http://www.petfinder.org

There are an awful lot of Arabians with rescue groups throughout NC and Virginia. You may want to do a regional search. I didn't check by age so that may narrow a search for you. The woman could have turned Czar over to a horse rescue.
 
I have been looking everywhere... but a few days ago i found some information that might help me find him..

the woman who had him last used to be one of the leaders of our local saddle & bridle club.. she apparently took him to alot of the shows there. shes not in the club anymore, but we talked to one of the other leaders a few days ago. He said he knew exactly what horse we were talking about and that he would do everything he could to help us find him. He said theyre having a show this Saturday (today)and that we should come talk to him and ask around about Czar. I was told that the last show Czar was in was at this place. She said she sold him by word of mouth, so somebody here might know something.

i talked to the leader again today andhe said that he is pretty sure he can find Czar... he said he has a friend who should know where Czar is , and he said will talk to him and see if he can find out. He said call him back in a few days and he might know something.

fixing to get ready and go to the show!!

also found some old pictures...

 
some of them arent very clear because i had to scan them into the computer (these were before we had digital camera:D). but here they are anyways...

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Czar and his buddy Hotshot (who we got back and still have today).

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Hotshot on left- Czar on right

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this one isnt clear, but czar is on the right and Hotshot on the left..its was snowing that day, and they were both laying down ..but Czar stood up when he saw us outside..he loved people.

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i truly hope you manage to track down your wee boy.hopefully someonewith some years in the localhorse circuitmight beable to help you with their connections?

gosh, he's beautiful. you can really see his arabian bloodlines in the second photo - it's so evident in his long lean body and his facial structure.
 
no..i called him toady, but i think he might have been at work.. i left a message and will call him again tomorrow if he doesnt call me first... its driving me crazy waiting to see if he's found anything:waiting::sigh:
 

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