sarahmerri
New Member
Hi everyone,
I'm new here but have been reading for a long time. I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this but in need of some support and guidance as don't feel we've got many answers from the vet and am wracked with guilt that we caused our poor bun's death in some way.
Theo was a 17 month old french lop. He was not neutered as we were worried about the risk of anaesthetic. We'd built him a custom made shed and spent several hours each day with him. He ate a diet of nuggets, timothy hay, kale and treats such as herb drops and carrots. He was vaccinated against myxi/rhd1 - the vet said he didn't get rhd2 as there had been no cases in our area and was considered low risk as was only ever in our garden - we didn't wear shoes from outdoors into the garden as we had separate shoes for this.
Last Saturday night he became unwell around 8pm and died at 2.30am. Before this he was completely well - on friday morning I'd texted my partner telling him Theo was having the time of his life as he was sprinting around the garden, binkying and exploring everywhere. I just don't understand what happened. If anyone can shed any light on what they think might have happened below I'd be very grateful as we are literally devastated. The vet thinks what happened at the end may be paddling as the brain was deprived of oxygen but we don't understand why this noise happened twice and he appeared fine inbetween. Also don't understand what could have caused him to deteriorate and die so quickly.
Saturday night
7pm
Seemed well, hopped around the lounge, ate a bit of paper.
8pm
Was sat in the kitchen hunched up. Refused his favourite herb drops when offered (normally he goes crazy for them). Followed me outside when I went to check the droppings in his hutch but then just sat in the grass hunched up. Didn't want water or any kale offered. Respiratory rate was increased. Tummy felt soft. Whilst we were checking his teeth he passed 3 normal-ish looking stools (maybe a bit smaller than normal).
8.40pm
Contacted the emergency vets - they advised to bring straight down. We were there by 9pm. The vet examined him, his temperature was normal, chest was clear and tummy soft. Nothing to see in his mouth, ears or eyes. She thought most likely a gut stasis and gave us metoclopramide, ranitidine and recovery sachets. She gave him an injection of meloxicam whilst we were there.
10pm
Returned home. He nibbled on bits of kale but seemed to be struggling to swallow. He'd been for a wee on the towel in his carrier on the way back. We gave ranitidine and metoclopramide. He continued to sit hunched up. We debated whether to put him outside in his usual hutch but it was cold and there were fireworks (close to bonfire night in the UK) so decided to keep him inside in his indoor hutch - he'd been in there before over winter when it had been icy.
12.30am
Still sat hunched up and was now grinding teeth. Was trying to give the recovery fluid but he was struggling to take and was mostly dripping down his chin. He tried to eat kale/hay but was just biting and not swallowing. He kept shifting positions slightly as though he was uncomfortable. He'd only passed a few very small stools since we'd got home. I phoned the vets back and spoke to the nurse - she said we needed to try harder to give the recovery fluid and that bringing him back would likely only cause more stress.
1.15am
He was still much the same and was still struggling to get recovery into him. He was grinding his teeth less so I decided to sleep - he was only a few metres away.
2.10am
Woken my a loud banging as though he was kicking or running around the cage. My partner got up to check on him and he was just sat still again by the time he got to him. He stroked him and he appeared settled so he got back into bed.
2.30am
The same loud noise but this time we heard the water bowl being kicked. My partner was with him in seconds. He was laid on his side kicking as though he was trying to run. He lifted him out the cage to allow him to run but he immediately fell on his side and continued to kick. A few moments later he went limp with his eyes open. I held him and massaged with a towel but it was clear he'd passed.
I'm new here but have been reading for a long time. I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this but in need of some support and guidance as don't feel we've got many answers from the vet and am wracked with guilt that we caused our poor bun's death in some way.
Theo was a 17 month old french lop. He was not neutered as we were worried about the risk of anaesthetic. We'd built him a custom made shed and spent several hours each day with him. He ate a diet of nuggets, timothy hay, kale and treats such as herb drops and carrots. He was vaccinated against myxi/rhd1 - the vet said he didn't get rhd2 as there had been no cases in our area and was considered low risk as was only ever in our garden - we didn't wear shoes from outdoors into the garden as we had separate shoes for this.
Last Saturday night he became unwell around 8pm and died at 2.30am. Before this he was completely well - on friday morning I'd texted my partner telling him Theo was having the time of his life as he was sprinting around the garden, binkying and exploring everywhere. I just don't understand what happened. If anyone can shed any light on what they think might have happened below I'd be very grateful as we are literally devastated. The vet thinks what happened at the end may be paddling as the brain was deprived of oxygen but we don't understand why this noise happened twice and he appeared fine inbetween. Also don't understand what could have caused him to deteriorate and die so quickly.
Saturday night
7pm
Seemed well, hopped around the lounge, ate a bit of paper.
8pm
Was sat in the kitchen hunched up. Refused his favourite herb drops when offered (normally he goes crazy for them). Followed me outside when I went to check the droppings in his hutch but then just sat in the grass hunched up. Didn't want water or any kale offered. Respiratory rate was increased. Tummy felt soft. Whilst we were checking his teeth he passed 3 normal-ish looking stools (maybe a bit smaller than normal).
8.40pm
Contacted the emergency vets - they advised to bring straight down. We were there by 9pm. The vet examined him, his temperature was normal, chest was clear and tummy soft. Nothing to see in his mouth, ears or eyes. She thought most likely a gut stasis and gave us metoclopramide, ranitidine and recovery sachets. She gave him an injection of meloxicam whilst we were there.
10pm
Returned home. He nibbled on bits of kale but seemed to be struggling to swallow. He'd been for a wee on the towel in his carrier on the way back. We gave ranitidine and metoclopramide. He continued to sit hunched up. We debated whether to put him outside in his usual hutch but it was cold and there were fireworks (close to bonfire night in the UK) so decided to keep him inside in his indoor hutch - he'd been in there before over winter when it had been icy.
12.30am
Still sat hunched up and was now grinding teeth. Was trying to give the recovery fluid but he was struggling to take and was mostly dripping down his chin. He tried to eat kale/hay but was just biting and not swallowing. He kept shifting positions slightly as though he was uncomfortable. He'd only passed a few very small stools since we'd got home. I phoned the vets back and spoke to the nurse - she said we needed to try harder to give the recovery fluid and that bringing him back would likely only cause more stress.
1.15am
He was still much the same and was still struggling to get recovery into him. He was grinding his teeth less so I decided to sleep - he was only a few metres away.
2.10am
Woken my a loud banging as though he was kicking or running around the cage. My partner got up to check on him and he was just sat still again by the time he got to him. He stroked him and he appeared settled so he got back into bed.
2.30am
The same loud noise but this time we heard the water bowl being kicked. My partner was with him in seconds. He was laid on his side kicking as though he was trying to run. He lifted him out the cage to allow him to run but he immediately fell on his side and continued to kick. A few moments later he went limp with his eyes open. I held him and massaged with a towel but it was clear he'd passed.