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Could they just be a sable frosty (1st) and a true cchd based ermine (2nd)? Sorry for my rambling intro, feel free to skip it and just take a look at the pics :) Also noticed in the last pic the white almost looks shaded on the nose but that's just lighting/filter making the pink of his...

I'd point out that if you're willing to go through test breedings and place unshowable babies in pet homes, you could breed out the vienna gene from her line. Your best bet is to hold back an unmarked baby or two (I'm assuming you'd want does), have to reaaaaally check well for any vienna...

Hi there! I test bred my Harlequin doe to my (pedigreed) Sable Point buck and got three adorable little black harlis-- one of which looks torted. However there are two other kits who's color has me stumped. I know the genetic* background of the father, but momma is a bit of a question mark. I...