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Minilop

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Hey there guys.

My bunny isn't neutered. He is nearly a year old now, and I wasn't going to do it because I was never planning to get him a girlfriend, plus he is pretty docile anyways.But, someone at work is moving house, and are not allowed to take thererabbit with them. They know I love animals, and want to know if I want him for free. He is a huge big minilop, who is very friendly. Only, he isn't neutered either.



This is probablya very obvious question, but I’m guessing un-neutered males will never be able to get on? My parents won't be too happy if I have to spend a fortune on neutering two big bucks. They already don't particularly like me spending as much on Cao as I do, and are really against me getting 'Colin.' They don't like many small animals, and don't even like me having Cao. They are the typical cattle dog, farming people. Somehow, I'm guessing the expenses of neutering will put them of even more. If that's possible.Especially if they end up not getting along anyways!Then there is the extra money on another cage ect.



Maybe it’s just better saying I can't take Colin. It would be alot easier.But, I am scared he will be given to somebody with no knowledge what so ever, or worse. Maybe I should just spend all the money, and hope they get on? If I can convince my parents, like I said before.



Gah. :expressionlessWhat do you guys think?


 
I love that you are thinking ahead of all the possible challenges to making a choice like this. It sounds like your parents are good farming people and they should be proud that they raised a daughter who looks into things the way you are doing now, taking on challenges and thinking her way through them.


If you are spending your own money on these guys, your parents are certainly allowed their opinion but part of growing up is making your own choices.

In fact, you could point out to your parents that many young people make terrible choices, and that you respect your parents but that this is actually a good thing.

If you speak with a vet's office they might could make you a little better deal on account of your bringing in two, or maybe a bunny organization will clue you in on a reasonable bunny vet to use.

As to whether they will ultimately get along, I can't predict, I leave that to the many more experienced bunny owners here.
 
Yes, it's great that you're considering the outcomes of your decision. I'm not really sure what would be the best thing to do. A lot of the time male rabbits will never get along and fight, especially if they're not neutered. Are you able to keep them separate if they don't get along? Maybe you could help make sure he goes to a good home. Whatever you do good luck! I can tell you care a lot about the bunnies ;)
 
Many people will tell you that unneutered males can not get along. In fact - that is frequently correct...I had a pair of Netherland Dwarf brothers who hated each other - even after being neutered and they never could be together again.

With that said...I also currently have SIX unneutered males living together in Robin's bedroom....three of which are hitting puberty.

Is there humping? Yep. You bet. Ziggy is bald on his rear end from Hope humping him a lot. Then again - Ziggy will turn around and hump Hope also.

The three that are hitting puberty? They're doing just fine - a bit of chasing sometimes - but they are frequently snuggled together also.

Of course - they have a room to run around in - versus a small cage.

From my experience with ONE mini-lop - he was very mellow-natured and I think he could have gotten along with another buck. (I don't know what your current rabbit is...sorry).

I would ask if you could have the other buck "visit" your house for a bit and see how well they get along. You never know - it could work out.

I never thought that my boys would get along so well - but the older three have been living together now for MONTHS...no fights at all...and the humping tends to be a mutual thing.

Just my .02
 
JadeIcing, I'm 14. I live at home with my parents, but I also have an after school job.

Thanks guys for the quick replies. I think that Cao could get along with another rabbit, but I am prepared to separate them if needed. I have an outdoor and an indoor cage, building another larger one, and I think Colin will come with a cage also. That is 4 cages between 2 Bunnies.I also have the money to neuter them both, And I think that is the best idea - Seeing as the are both adult bucks.

I am willing to take the time to introduce them slowly, and am planning to build a large cage today to show my parents I can handle another rabbit. So even if they totally disagree, Cao still has the largest living room available. :)

I think after the cage is done, I will ask the lady whether it is okay if I can have him for a while to see if it works out. Have them cage by cage, and see if they can cope. Have them "visit" Like Tinysmom said. If it doesn't work out, I will try my hardest to find him a responsible home.

Thanks again everyone. You are all so helpful!:)I shall post again tonight with updates.
 
this is kind of the same situation my friend and i am in right now... somebody gave her a bunny that they didnt want (aka were not taking good care of)... she's keeping him at her apartment this summer but when we both go back to school he will need somewhere to stay cause no pets in the dorms...so i volunteered for him to stay here with pepper possibly...neither of them are neutered so i was skeptical... but he had to stay with me this week while she was out of town and surprisingly they got along great right away (elliott chins pepperconstantly:twitch:)... we plan to get them both neutered this summer though.

sounds like your doing a great job thinking things through! keep us posted!
 
Great news! We found out today that Colin is already neutered. That means maybeonly Cao to do (When the weather gets a bit warmer.) I discussed it with mum, and she is happy for me to adopt Colin - If I can convince dad, and as long as they will get along. Hopefully I can organize a visit, like Tinysmom said.

The cage came along really well so far. It is amazingly big.It took 3 people and a Ute to shift the base. :shock:


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We covered the sides in chicken wire (Thegaps were too big - Bunny could fit through the holes..)& I still have to cover the roof, attach the netting safely to the bottom, and move the indoor part in. The cage won’t be finished for a while. That will be handy though, so we can have Colin's and Cao's cages side by side for abit before hand. See how they get on. Hopefully as well and Elliot and Pepper did. :)

This is only if I can convince dad though. :nerves1

When the cage is done, I will add more pictures.
 
Great cage!
I hope you can sort something out, the fact that he is already neuteured might not make much difference to your other bunny in bonding though. I would be extremely careful when letting them ''visit'' because it could turn into a very nasty fight and when they fight it can be difficult to get them apart without getting hurt yourself. Your best bet would be to introduce them in a room neither have been in before and see what happens.
 
my understanding is that if bunnies have one bad experience with each other when they meet that they can hold a grudge... I'm not sure on this so I would like to hear what other people say, but if this is the case then you should wait until they are both neutered to give them the best possible chance of getting along.

that cage looks great, although I have heard that some rabbits can eat throw chicken wire so be careful of that!

keep us updated, and keep thinking it through :)
 
Oh, that's great, that you only have to get one neutered and the other already is. It might not have been impossible to get them to get along otherwise, but probably close to. My boys hated each other before we neutered them. Now they have a sort of love-hate relationship. Currently they like one another, but their only contact is through the cage wall (we only let one out at a time). I'm considering trying to bond them again. They've been fully bonded 3 times, I think it is, but stress, etc. makes them fight (last time it was getting renovations done to the house - too much noise and needing to be moved to a room they'd already fought in :(). We'll see...
 
Thanks! I do hope your boys learn to get along. It's a pain when they don't.

Even though Cao is not even a year oldyet, he is pretty dominent. He always wants to be the boss! Hopefully neutering him will calm him down a bit, before I get to introduce them. Which, by the way, is getting organised for next week. Eeep! :nerves1

I will keep a constant eye on the chicken wire. Is there anything un-toxic that I could use instead? I'm pretty sure if he chews wire, he will chew anything though. :? (Cao will be inside until he has recovered from being 'fixed'. Colin will be in a seperate hutch outdoors.) I don't want to cause Cao anymore stress than he will already be under!

 
Haha, yeah, bunnies are full of surprises sometimes. Often the one you think will be dominant won't be, and vice versa. Both Kiwi and Coco like to be dominant is the problem with my bunnies. Kiwi's 6.4 pounds, and Coco's 4.2, which doesn't sound like that much difference but when you're talking about creatures that small, it's an enormous difference. It's kind of funny to see a whittle bunny trying to be the boss of a much stockier one.

About chicken wire: we had constructed an indoor cage for them once, 8 by 4 feet, and we used chicken wire, which turned out to not be such a great idea. I'm not sure what kind we got (I think you can get tougher ones), but yeah, they had no trouble finding weaker spots to pull apart and chew off. I don't remember them escaping from it, as we'd frequently check on them and take care of it before they had the chance to do enough damage, but I was worried they would cut themselves on it. So yeah, since then we've just given them their own room, and we let out one at a time. It would be great if they could become best buds again, would double their time out. :D I know this isn't an arrangement that works for everyone, though; not everyone has an extra room to spare.
 
Yay! It's my birthday on Monday! It looks like we might be getting Colin then. We will be finishing the cage this weekend, and Cao's neuter is next week. Looks like everything is going to plan so far!

Cao tried bullying the cat today. The little monster. I had him on the harness, and he Insisted to sniff out, and find the cat. When he did, she would take off, and he would go sprinting after her, binkying and hopping. Poor cat. She was terrified. Even though he is in his cage, I'm pretty sure she is still hiding under the table, keeping an eye out. Haha.

The chicken wire is only around the outside of larger squares, as a safety barrier. I will definatley keep an eye out - But this wire is used for on the farm, so should be strong enough for now. We do have a few spare rooms, but convincing my parents to give it to the bunny's wouldn't go down so well. ;)


 
Ah, okay. :) Haha, that's so funny, about bunny chasing the cat around. Whenever Kiwi's been around a cat, the cat's followed him around a bit while he ignored it (being more interested in the new environment than the cat), and then after awhile he would take an interest in the cat and decide to turn to face it and go to it, at which point the cat suddenly gets freaked out and runs away, haha.
 
Another change of plan.. We are picking up Colin today! We are going into town, and thought it would be a nice time for him to settle - on a weekend.

Anything (other than the basics) I need to know about helping him settle in? Thanks guys. Everyone helped heaps. :)
 

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