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So my bun kindled 5 kits this morning!! She made a nest a few days ago but messed it up so she gave birth on the cage floor. I made a nest myself and put as much fur as I can find in there but there so cold! There also really wrinkly. Is there anything I can do? She keeps stomping her feet and keeps jumping on them so they don't really wiggle they are just slow, (if that makes sense).
 
So my bun kindled 5 kits this morning!! She made a nest a few days ago but messed it up so she gave birth on the cage floor. I made a nest myself and put as much fur as I can find in there but there so cold! There also really wrinkly. Is there anything I can do? She keeps stomping her feet and keeps jumping on them so they don't really wiggle they are just slow, (if that makes sense).
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I replied to your other post about keeping them warm. To make them pee just rub their genitals upwards gently until they go.
 
If they are still alive, I would separate them from the doe or it sounds like she will kill them. I would keep them indoors in a nest box with soft grass hay(no mold) lined with the mom's fur, with a hollow for them to nestle into. You need to warm them up using a warm pack(not too hot) of some sort or against your skin. Once they are warm you will need to feed them. This can either be done by holding the doe on your lap and bringing the kits up underneath to the does belly to nurse, or if you are certain she will hold still and not kick and injure the kits, the doe can be held belly up for them to nurse(easier if you have two people to do this). If the doe isn't cooperative or not producing enough milk, the kits will need to be hand fed. This is a last resort because of the high mortality from aspiration pneumonia occurring.

The formula I prefer is 3 parts powdered kmr, 3 parts water, 1 part heavy cream(not whipped or sweetened), and a pinch of probiotics(something like benebac plus or fibreplex). Everything needs to be sterile, and the milk needs to be warm. I would search youtube for videos on how to hand feed baby rabbits. It needs to be done very carefully so they don't aspirate the milk.
http://www.bio.miami.edu/hare/orphan.html
https://flashsplace.webs.com/accidentallitters.htm
 
They won't pee because they are dehydrated. Once they have eaten they will likely pee not too long after, though you may need to stimulate them first gently, with a warm moist cotton ball on their lower belly/genital area.
 
They won't pee because they are dehydrated. Once they have eaten they will likely pee not too long after, though you may need to stimulate them first gently, with a warm moist cotton ball on their lower belly/genital area.
I saw one pee but I was holding it so I might of rubbed against it as I don't think the others have peed
 
If they are still alive, I would separate them from the doe or it sounds like she will kill them. I would keep them indoors in a nest box with soft grass hay(no mold) lined with the mom's fur, with a hollow for them to nestle into. You need to warm them up using a warm pack(not too hot) of some sort or against your skin. Once they are warm you will need to feed them. This can either be done by holding the doe on your lap and bringing the kits up underneath to the does belly to nurse, or if you are certain she will hold still and not kick and injure the kits, the doe can be held belly up for them to nurse(easier if you have two people to do this). If the doe isn't cooperative or not producing enough milk, the kits will need to be hand fed. This is a last resort because of the high mortality from aspiration pneumonia occurring.

The formula I prefer is 3 parts powdered kmr, 3 parts water, 1 part heavy cream(not whipped or sweetened), and a pinch of probiotics(something like benebac plus or fibreplex). Everything needs to be sterile, and the milk needs to be warm. I would search youtube for videos on how to hand feed baby rabbits. It needs to be done very carefully so they don't aspirate the milk.
http://www.bio.miami.edu/hare/orphan.html
https://flashsplace.webs.com/accidentallitters.htm
I kept the doe indoors before she gave birth and there warm now. I've squeezed the does nipple and no milk came out. The bellies are abit round but still thin. I just want in and checked on them and she moved the box in the middle of the cage and kept running across them.
 
A wooden nestbox with a partial roof is best to protect them. That way they can snuggle in the back without being jumped on by the doe. Is this a first time mother?

If she hasn’t fed them yet then try to get them nurse by holding her...they will likely be too weak to suck very soon
 
A wooden nestbox with a partial roof is best to protect them. That way they can snuggle in the back without being jumped on by the doe. Is this a first time mother?

If she hasn’t fed them yet then try to get them nurse by holding her...they will likely be too weak to suck very soon
I can't find any wooden nest boxes near me. I've decided to hand rear them as I don't think she's got any milk and I've tried to hold her and let them nurse but she keeps kicking and freaking out. This is her second litter. The first litter died because her milk dried up. I won't be breading her again.
 
Those rabbits need to go to a vet. They could be dehydrated and need fluids. Best to have someone look at them... and supportive care until you can get them medical attention. Feed KMR but make sure they only get is drop by drop so they do not aspirate. Make sure they actually swallow. When breeding any animal, it is important to have a trusted vet you can see for emergencies.
 
These are them now at 11 days
 

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