murielsayer
Rabbit Novice
Hello -
Tail (see what I did there?) of bonding woe here. My girlfriend has a 7 year old red rex rabbit, J, a neutered male she adopted when he was about a year old. J is generally sweet and docile, behaves much a small cat or dog (he was raised with cats), and is a big fella - about 10 pounds. He had a bondmate for a number of years, a tiny little female neutered rabbit, but she passed away about five months ago.
My girlfriend wanted to get J a friend, so she and I contacted a rabbit rescue local to us. They did a home visit and set up a "speed date" with three contenders - all neutered female rabbits over the age of 4. J responded well to them and they to him, but one rabbit seemed like the best bet so we went with her (one other was a closer bond, but had health issues that my girlfriend wasn't sure she could manage, since she works fulltime).
On the speed date, J groomed his intended bondmate, 4 year old, 6-pound lop-eared F (who has limited vision in her left eye), and the two interacted well both times they "met." At one point, they even sat side by side in a litter box. F got startled, though, and bit the facilitator on the second date, so it ended on a tough note.
Since bringing F home, bonding has been a struggle. We tried a neutral date outside in my girlfriend's backyard, but this ended with F biting J on the ear quite badly. Other bonds have resulted in chasing, cornering, and another bite (F got J on the face somewhere and, while no mark was left, J squealed - very unusual for him).
We have since tried stress bonding in my bathtub, filling it with a bit of water. It seems to work (the rabbits huddle together and all aggression is tabled; J has even groomed F some), but F, who was extremely malnourished and possibly abused before her time with the rabbit rescue, totally shuts down during stress bonding. She seems unable to respond to J's grooming, and does not even react when he bonks her with his front feet (seems less aggressive and more 'pay attention to me!'). Once we took them out of the tub, fighting resumed.
So we tried another approach - putting them in an x-pen with a divider in the middle. Whenever they attempt to fight through it, we sprayed them with water from a bottle. This worked really well; both backed off and began to groom themselves fastidiously. Then we removed the divider, leaving it open for 15 minutes at a time, spraying water as needed.
For a while, they did really well! They ignored each other for the most part, coming over to sniff. Sometimes F would run toward J and he would simply back off.
The problems started when F began to exhibit territorial behavior. She made a barrier with her towel and sat behind it. When J would mosey over, she would run at him. Most of the time he'd just go back to his side of the x-pen, but fighting resumed in earnest. My girlfriend reported that biting and kicking started after I left for work.
Both of us really want these two to work out their dominance issues without injuring each other. J especially seems to want companionship (though it seems like he hasn't forgiven F for the bites!) and F, though a scrapper, would likely benefit from a bond as well. Tomorrow, we plan to return to the bathtub and scrub down the x-pen and area where it was set up to remove traces of territory. But we are relatively new to this; J's first bond happened instantly, which is NOT the case here.
We might try the washing machine trick, as my girlfriend has an in-house washer-drier. We are cityfolk and neither of us has a car, so that's not much of an option. I have a bathtub and backyard at my disposal, and she has a yard she can use some of the time. I also have vacuum cleaners (and a drumset, if it comes to that!). But because F seems to have had past trauma, stress bonding might be harder than we thought.
Does anyone have experience bonding tricky rabbits? Rabbits with trauma histories?
Any advice would be great!
DETAILS:
Rabbit 1: J, 7 year old red rex, neutered male, 10lbs. Adopted at 1 year, raised with cats and a companion rabbit who died 5 months ago.
Rabbit 2: F, 4 year old black lop, neutered female, 6lbs. Limited vision in left eye. Has a history of malnutrition and possibly abuse. Not much is known about her history prior to her time at rabbit rescue.
Tail (see what I did there?) of bonding woe here. My girlfriend has a 7 year old red rex rabbit, J, a neutered male she adopted when he was about a year old. J is generally sweet and docile, behaves much a small cat or dog (he was raised with cats), and is a big fella - about 10 pounds. He had a bondmate for a number of years, a tiny little female neutered rabbit, but she passed away about five months ago.
My girlfriend wanted to get J a friend, so she and I contacted a rabbit rescue local to us. They did a home visit and set up a "speed date" with three contenders - all neutered female rabbits over the age of 4. J responded well to them and they to him, but one rabbit seemed like the best bet so we went with her (one other was a closer bond, but had health issues that my girlfriend wasn't sure she could manage, since she works fulltime).
On the speed date, J groomed his intended bondmate, 4 year old, 6-pound lop-eared F (who has limited vision in her left eye), and the two interacted well both times they "met." At one point, they even sat side by side in a litter box. F got startled, though, and bit the facilitator on the second date, so it ended on a tough note.
Since bringing F home, bonding has been a struggle. We tried a neutral date outside in my girlfriend's backyard, but this ended with F biting J on the ear quite badly. Other bonds have resulted in chasing, cornering, and another bite (F got J on the face somewhere and, while no mark was left, J squealed - very unusual for him).
We have since tried stress bonding in my bathtub, filling it with a bit of water. It seems to work (the rabbits huddle together and all aggression is tabled; J has even groomed F some), but F, who was extremely malnourished and possibly abused before her time with the rabbit rescue, totally shuts down during stress bonding. She seems unable to respond to J's grooming, and does not even react when he bonks her with his front feet (seems less aggressive and more 'pay attention to me!'). Once we took them out of the tub, fighting resumed.
So we tried another approach - putting them in an x-pen with a divider in the middle. Whenever they attempt to fight through it, we sprayed them with water from a bottle. This worked really well; both backed off and began to groom themselves fastidiously. Then we removed the divider, leaving it open for 15 minutes at a time, spraying water as needed.
For a while, they did really well! They ignored each other for the most part, coming over to sniff. Sometimes F would run toward J and he would simply back off.
The problems started when F began to exhibit territorial behavior. She made a barrier with her towel and sat behind it. When J would mosey over, she would run at him. Most of the time he'd just go back to his side of the x-pen, but fighting resumed in earnest. My girlfriend reported that biting and kicking started after I left for work.
Both of us really want these two to work out their dominance issues without injuring each other. J especially seems to want companionship (though it seems like he hasn't forgiven F for the bites!) and F, though a scrapper, would likely benefit from a bond as well. Tomorrow, we plan to return to the bathtub and scrub down the x-pen and area where it was set up to remove traces of territory. But we are relatively new to this; J's first bond happened instantly, which is NOT the case here.
We might try the washing machine trick, as my girlfriend has an in-house washer-drier. We are cityfolk and neither of us has a car, so that's not much of an option. I have a bathtub and backyard at my disposal, and she has a yard she can use some of the time. I also have vacuum cleaners (and a drumset, if it comes to that!). But because F seems to have had past trauma, stress bonding might be harder than we thought.
Does anyone have experience bonding tricky rabbits? Rabbits with trauma histories?
Any advice would be great!
DETAILS:
Rabbit 1: J, 7 year old red rex, neutered male, 10lbs. Adopted at 1 year, raised with cats and a companion rabbit who died 5 months ago.
Rabbit 2: F, 4 year old black lop, neutered female, 6lbs. Limited vision in left eye. Has a history of malnutrition and possibly abuse. Not much is known about her history prior to her time at rabbit rescue.