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So about 4 months ago I became the owner of an abandon rabbit. She was left out in the wild by a neighbor and was 2 and a half pounds under weight when I found her. After vet visits and getting her back to health she has found a comfortable home in the pen that I built for her in my room. I've been following all the guidelines for bunny care as given by my vet and online and for along time she was very mild tempered and sweet but over the last two weeks she has become very aggressive. Every time we try to clean out her cage or pet her or get her bowl she scratches, bites, and grunts. Idk if undoing something wrong or it's just her attitude. The only thing we changed in the past month or so is that we made her pen even bigger. Please any advice would be helpful
 
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If she isn't spayed I'd recommend getting her done, she'll have a high risk of uterine cancer and will continue being aggressive because of her hormones. Also how long does she get outside of her cage everyday? Rabbits really need several hours of exercise time each day so that they can properly exercise and burn off energy.

When it comes to cage aggressive rabbits you need to remember that they think you're a predator attacking them, anything they do is because of a heightened need for self defense. When you let her out of her cage, try to let her come out on her own (x-pens are very good for this) and once she is out of her cage then clean her area.
 
She gets out for about an hour a day when I get home and I take her out side every weekend. Il try letting her out on her own instead of picking her up. She isn't spayed yet but I didn't know that would cause so a big temperament change.
 
I have two intact female buns I took in when the neighbor was going to let them loose. They are not aggressive but I can tell you I have seen just how strong the hormones can be. Spaying is your best option for improvement of your behavior and the sooner the better so it does not just become habit.

If you need to you could try enticing her in and out of her cage with treats which could just be a few pellets.
 
I have one female that is not sprayed and she is not aggressive and two that are fixed. It could be anything, not necessarily because she is not fixed. I jumped up and got the two rescues fixed and to be honest, I wish I had not.
Their entire personality changed from loving to more stand offish. Also the vet I used did not give pain meds after.
I could have put up with the pooh on the floor to have a loving bunny back.

Sorry this is my personal opinion. I'm sure I'm going to get flamed, but this is what I have personally encountered. Also I have the two rescues and your bunny is a rescue as well. They are going to be totally different from some rabbit you pick up from a breeder or you have from the day they are born and people need to remember that.

I thought that getting my rescues fixed was a magic fix all and they would be loving like they were before and simply stop poohing and peeing in place and I still had to work with my rescues that got fixed to get aggressive behavior out and from what you are writing she was not like that the entire time. She could just be getting territorial. I posted something a few weeks ago about this and will have to look to find the same info and put it here.

Also remember this is a RESCUE. You have no idea what happened with this rabbit prior in her environment or what the previous owner did. This is not a bunny that was just born that has no baggage attached. You may have done something that imitated the past owner when they may have hit her, or did something that else scared her in the past. You have no idea what happened in that household. You are working with a blank slate with no clear idea of the history. So you are at square one.

Good luck and keep us posted,
Vanessa


Here is the article:

People are often shocked the first time they see a rabbit display anger. Bunnies, after all, are supposed to be timid and sweet, not outspoken and nasty, and the sudden appearance of sharp teeth and raking claws can be disarming. But whether your rabbit is nipping the hand that feeds him, chasing you across the room, or latching his teeth into your calf, it’s not unusual and it’s not hopeless.


In fact, working with an aggressive rabbit can be extremely rewarding. Many House Rabbit Society members have found that aggressive rabbits are often very intelligent animals who are just trying to express themselves. Once they’re given some respect and some ground rules, that expression can turn to boundless energy, enthusiasm, and affection.


Aggressive rabbits can be scary. Rabbits bite hard, kick hard, and move fast, so it’s not unusual for owners to get intimated, or start dreaming of dumping their rabbit at the pound. So before you even approach this rabbit, convince yourself of the following principles: 1) Rabbits aren’t born mean. Ninety-nine percent of aggressive rabbits have a behavioral problem, not a genetic one. Behavior can be changed, so give your bunny a chance. The biggest behavior change happens at 4 months, and this is the time to visit your rabbit veterinarian to talk about spay and neuter. There is very little chance of having a calm, non-biting/scratching bunny after 4 months of age if not soon fixed. Think of the human teenager. Your rabbit is growing up; hormones are in control, and your rabbit is changing.
2) Your rabbit doesn’t hate you. There may be a slight chance that your rabbit has taken a personal dislike to one person. More likely, she’s afraid you’re going to hurt her. Nevertheless…
3) You’re the only one who can solve the problem. Your rabbit won’t wake up one day and say, “Gee, maybe I should be nicer to Jane.” It’s the humans who have to figure out what’s wrong and initiate new ways of interacting.

4) You must NEVER hit a rabbit. Some people try to “teach” their bunnies not to bite by swatting their noses or even hitting them with newspapers. This will only aggravate the problem tenfold. Your hands MUST be seen as only a source of affection, bringing hay and food, and petting/love. Never, and I must repeat, NEVER hit or tap your rabbit for biting. He/she will never forget, and this will make things so much worse. You need to reassure your rabbit that her environment is safe and you are there to help. If you can train yourself not to flinch when he/she pounces or attacks, that will teach your rabbit, “Hey, this doesn’t work.” Using a high-pitched “eeeekk” sound will let him know it hurt, and this is how they tell each other about pain. (NOTE: One of my rescues LOVES to hear that EEEK sound and will keep biting me over and over again just to hear it. In fact, I swear she started batting her dark long lashes at me and had hearts in her eyes every time she heard it. So I stopped do it. It did not work with her so I had to say NO and push her head down. Remember, what works for one will not always work for all....) Spend several minutes a day, as much as you can, petting your rabbit from the top of the head back, slowly.


Common Aggression Scenarios

Th e first step in helping an aggressive rabbit is figuring out what’s making him tick. First be sure your rabbit is healthy. Often rabbits will bite out of pain, so a trip to a good rabbit vet will look for tooth problems, pain, etc. This is often missed.


The following scenarios, all taken from real life, illustrate the basic causes of aggression and some easy ways to solve it. (Names have been changed to protect the reformed):
“Every time I walk in the room, Netty circles my feet and bites my ankles. Does she want something from me?”

She does–and you can’t give it to her. Circling, mounting, and biting are classic signs of a sexually frustrated bunny. It may be cute at first, but it can develop into a pretty nasty habit. Neutering males and spaying females can dramatically reduce aggressive behavior. In the meantime, try the suggestions listed below to protect you and your loved ones.
“When I put my hand down for my new rabbit, Jaws, to sniff she lunges at it. Doesn’t she like the way I smell?”

It isn’t the smell, it’s the motion and the position. Although rabbits have great long-distance eyesight, their near-distance vision isn’t so great. A human hand in front a rabbit’s face can be very startling, and a rabbit may lunge defensively at the perceived threat. They see very well far (the bird in the sky they may be looking at when you think they are looking at you). Their life depends on seeing the predators far, so the near vision is not that good. Put a hand in front of your face. Like a horse, this is how your rabbit sees you up close. He doesn’t very well–especially in front!
This is not to say that smell does not affect a rabbit; it does. Many of us who work at animal shelters will notice lunges or bites from our sweet at-home rabbits when we come home, even after washing our hands. They have a keen sense of smell, so be aware it is a good idea to wash several times if handling other rabbits they are not used to, or dogs, cats, etc., and handle your home rabbit’s hay and bed before touching him/her.
One should also consider natural rabbit communication, and how a hand in front of your bunny’s face might be perceived as a message of hostility. In rabbit social situations, a dominant rabbit will often approach a subordinate from the front and place her face and body close to the subordinate’s nose. This “getting in her face” is one way rabbits maintain dominance, and the usual result is that the subordinate will give way and hop off to avoid a confrontation. But if the subordinate rabbit takes offense at this gesture, fur could fly! Thus, your rabbit may interpret your hand approaching her face as a sign of aggression on your part. She is doing no more than meeting your (perceived) aggression with a defensive lunge.
To break Jaws of her lunging habit, keep your hands above her head and away from her nose. When she looks aggravated, stroke her gently from above, avoiding her face except for her forehead, and speak in a soothing voice. Meeting aggression with more aggression will only escalate things. Positive reinforcement and understanding will go a long way towards getting your bunny to understand that you mean her no harm.
Some experienced rabbit people have found that carefully lifting an angry bunny and holding her with her spine against our breastbone–one hand around the rib cage, the other under the rump, all four feet and the mouth sticking straight out away from us, helps alleviate the anger and tells the bunny who is the ”Top Bun” in a peaceful way. In this position, the rabbit feels totally secure, but is totally helpless and unable to bite.
“Attila is adorable. But when we reach into his cage to pull him out he bites our hands. What’s wrong?”

Rabbits can be very territorial. The first step to helping this rabbit is to stop dragging him out of his cage; he needs a place to call his own. Open the door and let him come and go on his own time. Wait until he’s out of his cage to clean it, change his water, or do other housekeeping chores. Do not clean a rabbit’s cage, and take out his boxes, toys with him in there. Would you like someone to come in and remove your iPad, television, bed? That is all the rabbit has–his cage. If need be, use a treat in a carrier, to entice him out.
After a few weeks, you can begin to try to touch him in his cage, but don’t grab him or mess with his stuff. Wear gloves so you don’t jerk your hand around, which may provoke him. Keep your hand above his head and then calmly and quickly bring it down to the top of his head. If he lets you touch his head, very softly stroke it. Tell him what a great big, brave, beautiful rabbit he is. Then let him alone until the next day, when you try the exercise again. Eventually he should associate your hand in the cage with a nice nose rub, not being grabbed.
“Sometimes when I try to stop Baby from eating the carpet, she nips my hands. Am I hurting her?”

No, you’re bugging her. Nipping is often a rabbit’s way of saying “back-off ” or “get out of my way” or “quit putting the wet stuff in my ears.” It’s understandable, but it’s not the greatest behavior for a house pet. You can try pressing her head down. You can also try squealing “EEEK!” when she nips, so she realizes she’s actually hurting you. Many rabbits will learn to nudge your hand instead, or simply hop away. You might also decide that little nips as communication are ok in your household.
“Piggy has started biting my hands when I put the food down. What’s her problem?”

Piggy is probably an enthusiastic eater. But she may not be sure you’re going to put the food down. If you’re putting the bowl down, make sure you put it right down–don’t make her beg or dance for it. Feed her on a regular schedule so she can count on chow at a certain time of day. And don’t overdo the snacks–it makes some rabbits expect a treat every time you walk in the room.
If she bites when you hand feed her, it’s probably because she can’t see what smells so good. Try feeding her larger treats (like Italian parsley or carrots, carrot tops) until she gets her aim down (some rabbits have to practice). You can a lso try feeding small treats, like raisins or a tiny piece of a banana, with wooden spoons or tongs. That way you can hold the treat steady for her without losing a thumb. Be sure to give you rabbit plenty of HAY……
Hay is extremely important to your rabbit’s digestion and to keep his teeth trimmed. Oat hay is a favorite and takes the longest to chew; also add Timothy, Orchard grass, etc., when you find out what he likes.
Extremely Aggressive Rabbits: Bunnies Who Run With the Wolves

Some rabbits are so “mean” they seem more like predators than prey. These are the rabbits who chase you across the room and up into chairs, who sink their teeth into your tender limbs and refuse to let go, or who growl at you when you approach. They’re the rabbits most likely to be dumped or put to sleep. Unfortunately, they’re often the ones who have suffered the most in life because somewhere along the line they learned that humans, or life itself, is not safe.
If your rabbit is neutered or spayed, there can be any number of reasons he’s aggressive. First you must give your rabbit time after spaying or neutering. It can take up to a MONTH for your rabbit’s hormones to settle down. It is by no means instantaneous, and they are sore for a few days after (especially females–give them a good 4 days without picking up or bothering them after spaying). If you just got a new rabbit, he may be stressed out by the move. His last owner may have frightened him somehow. He may have never had much contact with a human before. Or, if he used to be a hutch rabbit, the noises, smells, and sights of a house may be overwhelming him. One of the best things you can do for your relationship with this kind of rabbit is to protect yourself. Wear gloves, long sleeves, long pants, and real shoes when you’re around him. This will protect your flesh. It will also help you keep calm. If your skin is protected, you’re not as likely to jump, squeal or flail your arms, all of which might provoke or frighten him more.
Now start playing detective. Watch him closely to see what provokes him. It may be your touching anything in his view. It may be the movement of your legs when you walk . It may be a certain sound–like a rattling newspaper or the vacuum cleaner. It may be your reaching out to touch him or feed him. Whatever it is, don’t do it. He needs to learn that you’re not out to get him. One rabbit was frightened by sleeves, having been carried by young boys in coat pockets. You never know what happened to your rabbit before you got him.
Then turn on the charm. One of the key lessons that House Rabbit Society members have learned is that affection works wonders on psycho bunnies. Try acting like he’s the greatest thing that ever happened in your life, despite the bandages on your hand and the boots on your feet. Give him a big hello when you see him. Greet his every act of aggression with good humor too. When he charges your arm, say “why hello, you little pumpkin!” while calmly removing your arm from his reach. If he growls and thumps, say, “yes, you’re a BIG rabbit –I love that about you!” If he streaks across the room with murder in his eyes, simply say, “hey buddy, are you coming to see me?”
You can ruffle his fur, sing a little song, say a little prayer, whatever it takes to greet his bad temper with joy, affection, and calmness. It takes courage, but if you have gloves and shoes on, you’re safe. If he looks like he’s going to bite, put your hand on his head, but continue to be cheerful. You can try saying EEK too–but be careful with this. Some nervous rabbits are provoked by a high-pitched squeal.
Rabbits think in patterns; your job is to change the pattern, so he realizes that his approach provokes affection from you, not harm. Eventually he’ll associate you with kind words, nice pats, and enthusiasm for his particular personality. Don’t forget play time–toys, boxes, so he associates you with fun things!

Your bunny probably won’t change overnight. It can take weeks for a rabbit to learn to trust. But that’s what’s so rewarding, and so moving, about helping aggressive rabbits. Your not just changing his behavior; you’re changing his perception of the world. As you do so, you’ll alleviate a lot of his suffering.
 
So about 4 months ago I became the owner of an abandon rabbit. She was left out in the wild by a neighbor and was 2 and a half pounds under weight when I found her. After vet visits and getting her back to health she has found a comfortable home in the pen that I built for her in my room. I've been following all the guidelines for bunny care as given by my vet and online and for along time she was very mild tempered and sweet but over the last two weeks she has become very aggressive. Every time we try to clean out her cage or pet her or get her bowl she scratches, bites, and grunts. Idk if undoing something wrong or it's just her attitude. The only thing we changed in the past month or so is that we made her pen even bigger. Please any advice would be helpful


Read the section in the article on cleaning out the cage... I think this is a clear case of that scenario.. I'll post it here again..


Vanessa


“Attila is adorable. But when we reach into his cage to pull him out he bites our hands. What’s wrong?”

Rabbits can be very territorial. The first step to helping this rabbit is to stop dragging him out of his cage; he needs a place to call his own. Open the door and let him come and go on his own time. Wait until he’s out of his cage to clean it, change his water, or do other housekeeping chores. Do not clean a rabbit’s cage, and take out his boxes, toys with him in there. Would you like someone to come in and remove your iPad, television, bed? That is all the rabbit has–his cage. If need be, use a treat in a carrier, to entice him out.
After a few weeks, you can begin to try to touch him in his cage, but don’t grab him or mess with his stuff. Wear gloves so you don’t jerk your hand around, which may provoke him. Keep your hand above his head and then calmly and quickly bring it down to the top of his head. If he lets you touch his head, very softly stroke it. Tell him what a great big, brave, beautiful rabbit he is. Then let him alone until the next day, when you try the exercise again. Eventually he should associate your hand in the cage with a nice nose rub, not being grabbed.
 
She gets out for about an hour a day when I get home and I take her out side every weekend. Il try letting her out on her own instead of picking her up. She isn't spayed yet but I didn't know that would cause so a big temperament change.

I don't think so. I have an unsprayed female I can reach in and do whatever to, she doesn't do a thing and I have no intention of getting her fixed. I've had her since she was 4 days old.

I think it's the rescue angle with the fact that she is starting to feel safe in her cage, after all it's *HER*Territory and darn it, dad and mom keep reaching in there and messing around with my things.. I think the article sums it up. I reach into my Agouti's cage all the time, boy and girl, brother and sister BOTH not fixed. They don't do a thing. They are used to me doing this as I 've had them forever and raised them. It's the rescues I get the same thing with and it's the territory thing. I think if you follow the tips in the article you will see a change and it will be ok..

Please keep us posted and good luck and thank goodness you rescued her!
Who knows what would have happened if she had been left in the woods on her own.

You truly have a heart of gold!

Vanessa
 
you need to step back and watch your bunny. Observe what she likes and doesn't.
Let her know in a calm manner what works for you and what doesn't. :) You may need to get her out of her cage before you clean it so that she's not worried about what you are doing with "HER" stuff. :)
Take your time and figure her out before you go jumping into doing surgery on her.
 
All a matter of you training bunny and, bunny training you. Perhaps she is afraid you are going to take her stuff that she thinks makes it home. I have a doe like that. I don't dare take anything form her cage w/o first putting the replacement in. That includes the nest box when she kindles. T have to put the regular sleeping pallet back in there BEFORE removing the nest box at weaning. I can have the kits, no problem but inanimate objects, no. She seems to think she has a set number of each type of thing and, it had better stay that way. :)
 
I don't think so. I have an unsprayed female I can reach in and do whatever to, she doesn't do a thing and I have no intention of getting her fixed. I've had her since she was 4 days old.

Not to start an arguement, but getting a rabbit spayed can help so much besides preventing cancer. I'm speaking from experience of more than twenty rabbits being neutered/spayed at the shelter I work at and from dozens of people online. Obviously all rabbits are different, but all of the rabbits I have worked with have been so much happier and friendlier post op.
 
Not to start an arguement, but getting a rabbit spayed can help so much besides preventing cancer. I'm speaking from experience of more than twenty rabbits being neutered/spayed at the shelter I work at and from dozens of people online. Obviously all rabbits are different, but all of the rabbits I have worked with have been so much happier and friendlier post op.

Snowytoshi thanks for sharing. I think in another post I put on here she is too stressed and just about had a heart attack one time we got her into the vets office for a exam prior to that being done. My two rescues were NOT friendlier and happier after getting fixed in fact I saw a distinct difference and this is as a pet owner, not observer.. but I'm not trying to sway anyone to my way of thinking or opinion. I'm just sharing.

For my two Agouti's the VET said, forget it. Her heart rate is way up and if we do any surgery or try to put her under she could die. Same thing with her brother. They started freaking out. I'm not going to cause my babies to have a heart attack to get them fixed and have two dead rabbits. Even the vet agreed.

Deal with me I'm thinking aloud here and NOT trying to be an ass ok?

About cancer, you know I'm wondering why this does not occur more in Humans: you know, got a body part just sitting around not doing anything, it could cause cancer, get it out..right??

If the American Cancer Society started a campaign for women to get a hysterectomy because them sitting around with their ovaries in their bodies would cause cancer, all hell would break loose. If they started a campaign for men to get circumcised that were uncircumcised because of cancer, tons of people would complain and alot have and would not go for it.

They tell us this in pets and we rush out and get them fixed because it's the gospel...

I've had pets that I've NEVER gotten fixed due to money. I didn't have the $300 plus for that and it was pay rent or get the animal fixed. Pets are my life, but me an my pets need a place to live at that time. No cancer. No problems. Died of old age. Never had ANY cancer in those pets. Why is it a given fact an animal or rabbit WILL 100% get cancer if they don't get fixed? Remember, I have two fixed. I have two that will never get fixed ..

Just a thought, don't shoot me..and I also do not 100% trust the medical profession. I used to work in internal medicine and saw all the things that went on between the drug companies and doctors also...

Vanessa
 
I've been wishing for a hysterectomy for years, actually asked for one for my Birthday once...not that I'm afraid of cancer, I'm just done with those parts and not having a monthly visit from Aunt Flo would be awesome!

I've had 2 house rabbits in the past, the female, not spayed, died of cancer at 2 1/2 (vet said yes, it was cancer). My male was un neutered and was a sprayer (yuck!). The reason this new baby is getting an appointment the second we get home with him/her is because if she is a female I'd rather nip any future cancer in the bud, and if a male a non sprayer would be awesome! With my luck if she isn't fixed she WILL get cancer and it will probably be more expensive than the $300 for the spay. Short story, (not bunny related) we had 2 male rats 5 years back, one got cancer, it cost $400 plus to have it removed and get him all patched up (the lump was right near his boy parts so it could not be ignored). I wish I had gotten him neutered right when we got him as it was quoted by their vet as $200, I didn't have the money then and basically thought that was too much to get him neutered x 2 actually (for his brother, who never got cancer). I think I'm gung ho for spaying/neutering for this bun because I saved up $1,000 before I even considered getting a bunny as a "vet expense" fund for a future pet. I really have no excuse this time around and the bun will get the operation regardless of sex or chance of cancer. This is just my situation for others money is a BIG consideration.
 
I've been wishing for a hysterectomy for years, actually asked for one for my Birthday once...not that I'm afraid of cancer, I'm just done with those parts and not having a monthly visit from Aunt Flo would be awesome!

You are *too* funny! I had to laugh outloud at that! You crack me up!!!!!

I know what you are saying about your rats and about your rabbit and like I said, 2 of my buns are fixed.

The other two will not because they are getting too stressed every time I take them in for a pre exam and possibly get them fixed the vet thinks they are going to go into cardiac arrest and it's not worth it. They are already going on two years old. I'll just keep my eyes on those two and if anything funny happens we'll play it by ear.

Vanessa
 
I am dealing with an aggressive bun right now, my Luna Bean was seized in an abuse case. I can't imagine what she went through, she only has one ear now. She is very protective of her cage, she charges and grunts at me. I never try to clean it when she is in there, I always let her out to hop around a bit and when I am ready to clean I put her in the pet carrier. Every night, I sit in her xpen with her and talk to her and hand feed her veggies. I go really slow and take my cues from her. Together we are learning what works and what doesn't. I accepted the fact early on that I will most likely never be able to pick her up and cuddle her. I will be happy to get to the day when I reach down to pet her and she doesn't flinch, or to watch her do a dead bunny flop, or just to chill next to me. Good luck with you and your bun.
 
You have already gotten a lot of good information. When it comes to spaying/neutering I don't focus on the cancer side of it with rabbits as the data put put there by societies can often be skewed. I recommend spaying/neutering more for behavior and also to avoid unwanted pregnancy. Rabbits can breed so quickly and one incident can create babies. There are so many owners who have these accidents it's sickening. Pregnancy in rabbits can be devastating especially if the rabbits are seen as pets. Not to mention introducing poorly planned babies that could have genetic health issues.

I have had my fair share of aggressive does. One of them so aggressive my mom was getting bitten almost every week. We rehomed her and she turned into an angel. Other does we have just had to work with and daily handling was in place until she calmed down. I have certainly noticed that coming at a rabbit right in front of them is not something to do rather coming at them from above. With these does having a cage that opened from the top was a godsend. Most of the time it was just cage aggression. I have show rabbits so I can't say that spaying helped although with a young rabbit going through all the hormones I'm sure it can drive them insane wanting to breed but not being able to.
 
Thanks everybody. So far I've tried nott cleaning he cage while she is in it. I think that's a big part of the problem because she really wasn't as aggressive until I expanded her cage. I talked to the vet yesterday and got info on getting her spayed. I think we are gonna do it but wait a few months to save the money.
 
I am dealing with an aggressive bun right now, my Luna Bean was seized in an abuse case. I can't imagine what she went through, she only has one ear now. She is very protective of her cage, she charges and grunts at me. I never try to clean it when she is in there, I always let her out to hop around a bit and when I am ready to clean I put her in the pet carrier. Every night, I sit in her xpen with her and talk to her and hand feed her veggies. I go really slow and take my cues from her. Together we are learning what works and what doesn't. I accepted the fact early on that I will most likely never be able to pick her up and cuddle her. I will be happy to get to the day when I reach down to pet her and she doesn't flinch, or to watch her do a dead bunny flop, or just to chill next to me. Good luck with you and your bun.

You know, I think you *will* be able to pick her up and cuddle her. I can with Brooke. Sure she bites me every now and then, but who doesn't! :bunnybutt:

I think you are making some good progress with Luna. Give it 6 months and
we will see where you are with her then. I bet a heck of alot further.

Vanessa
 

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